2016 Postmortem

Cha

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4. 200. BERNIE SANDERS

Tue Dec 6, 2016, 09:33 AM

Dec 2016

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" I know this is going to piss a lot of people off, but so be it. I think Sanders, who fortified the recurring narrative that Hillary was a corrupt neoliberal and part of a rigged system, did more damage than anyone else. He turned millions of young people against Hillary — and countless independents, no doubt, too.

Yes, he ultimately campaigned for Hillary, but did so half-heartedly, through pursed lips and slumped body language, bashing Trump but rarely praising Hillary. One could almost see the thought bubble over his head: “This should’ve been me.”

And, it's going to make a lot of People say.. YES!

Yeah, he campaigned for Hillary but he campaigned harder against.. he just couldn't convince his fans that he didn't mean all those horrible things he said about her in the Primary.

I saw it in real life.. they "just didn't like her".. so the geniuses voted for stein and got a bleeding climate change denier in the WH.

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Things I Blame For Hillary Clintons Loss, Ranked (Huff Po) [View all] Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 OP

more in the link/article... Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #1

I particularly like the responses at the website! Just look at the top 11 - FourScore Dec 2016 #91

Sounds like it's worth reading for the comments anyway. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #121

So.....1-200 is basically MISOGYNY. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #2

Those are just excerpts... more in the article... Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #3

200. BERNIE SANDERS Cha Dec 2016 #4

... LexVegas Dec 2016 #8

Aloha, Lex Cha Dec 2016 #9

On one hand GummyBearz Dec 2016 #14

How About A Little Payback Me. Dec 2016 #27

Payback for the most liked politician on the left? Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #28

If He Was So LIked Me. Dec 2016 #64

Another creative, though unsupported allegation. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #115

Yes, no one can prove that not badmouthing and smearing Democrats is a good idea Cary Dec 2016 #120

I'm pretty sure there are rules... GummyBearz Dec 2016 #39

The First Rule Is Me. Dec 2016 #70

Ok GummyBearz Dec 2016 #74

That sounds like something Trump would do. padfun Dec 2016 #44

"being allowed"? Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #61

Except For Being A Dem Of Convenience Me. Dec 2016 #63

Please indicate the specific requirement he didn't meet. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #67

He Couldn't Have Run Unless They Allowed Him To Me. Dec 2016 #79

No doubt he met all the requirements.... LanternWaste Dec 2016 #116

what kind of payback are we talking about? RazBerryBeret Dec 2016 #122

A Genuine Effort To Defeat Rump Me. Dec 2016 #124

some feel that he went above and beyond his "payback". RazBerryBeret Dec 2016 #125

Way Too Easy For BS Supporters Me. Dec 2016 #131

If one is not a Democrat, why should one run as a Democrat? treestar Dec 2016 #133

Because he holds democratic values GummyBearz Dec 2016 #136

Young people, as a percentage, voted for Clinton in higher percentages than did ProfessorPlum Dec 2016 #17

Hillary Clinton (Group). yallerdawg Dec 2016 #31

It was real obvious. Cha Dec 2016 #32

Show me ONE TIME where he called her corrupt. FourScore Dec 2016 #40

Sanders wasn't the problem, it was many of his supporters who did call her corrupt right here and Hoyt Dec 2016 #76

He used all kinds of nasty innuendo to suggest just that. JTFrog Dec 2016 #100

Examples? REAL examples. n/t FourScore Dec 2016 #111

Seriously? I'll just start with this one. JTFrog Dec 2016 #123

Using a narrative and using a word are two different concepts. Learn, please. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #117

Yes, are you happy? you pissed me off. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #43

Oh I think I can fistbump if I want to.. I wasn't talking to you. I was Cha Dec 2016 #52

If that's what makes you happy these days mountain grammy Dec 2016 #62

Meh Lithos Dec 2016 #47

You've absolutely nailed it. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #51

+1000 to #6. HughBeaumont Dec 2016 #57

And LittleGirl Dec 2016 #68

I think we'll be talking about this long after 2020 INdemo Dec 2016 #56

When will people realize hillary is less than 1% beind Obama's 2012 results? lunamagica Dec 2016 #77

Yes! This is an important qualifier! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #90

When will you realize how the electoral college works? GummyBearz Dec 2016 #114

Rewriting history? Omaha Steve Dec 2016 #59

. George II Dec 2016 #75

Agreed. And even at her nominating Convention he continued with the blackmail and running his own politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2016 #86

Yup. murielm99 Dec 2016 #132

I also blame Sanders and will never support him or his supporters Gothmog Dec 2016 #138

I just blame the people who didn't vote for her. TreasonousBastard Dec 2016 #5

that could be the 2020 campaign slogan 'vote for me, or you're to blame' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #60

'Because seriously, fu*k that.' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #6

Never went to Wisconsin during the GE exboyfil Dec 2016 #7

"Never went to Wisconsin" TwilightZone Dec 2016 #10

Those include surrogates exboyfil Dec 2016 #13

Thanks. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #18

How will history books view Comey? exboyfil Dec 2016 #25

I'm not sure, though I tend to agree. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #97

Ranking Sanders higher than President Obama, who handed her her first loss? Orsino Dec 2016 #11

...and who also appointed James Comey. vi5 Dec 2016 #65

Well, she was extremely popular as Secretary of State. She had some pretty amazing poll numbers StevieM Dec 2016 #96

I'm with you apcalc Dec 2016 #12

What a stupid "article". Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #15

Great post...and I agree competely. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #16

I agree with everything in this OP hueymahl Dec 2016 #19

Think you are proving the OP! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #21

Hahahahaha! You are exhibit numero uno! Thank you! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #22

So, You are claiming I am a mysogonist? hueymahl Dec 2016 #24

Woah! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #26

We have a simple sayin.' yallerdawg Dec 2016 #34

Here's another one hueymahl Dec 2016 #92

Hey. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #93

Yep. And if you notice, the whole question of misogyny is not being discussed all that much. Squinch Dec 2016 #20

The vitriolic Hate & utter disrespect towards HRC made no sense! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #30

What I have a hard time with, WRT Misogny- Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #73

I do think that there is more misogyny of a certain sort in parts of America than in England LeftishBrit Dec 2016 #83

Great points, thanks Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #94

Hostility toward women was one of the strongest predictors of a Trump vote. So apparently, yes. Squinch Dec 2016 #110

Thanks for the link Ghost OF Trotsky Dec 2016 #139

The media should rank very high here. A competitive primary is a lame reason. Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #23

+1 dae Dec 2016 #29

Hillary didn't lose becasue she was a woman. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #33

Clinton a dynasty! Lol! Easy thing to say, non? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #36

People are sick at having the same families be president. The Clintons are annoying. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #38

Generalize much? Many of us Dems like the Clintons! Both Bill and Hill! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #41

Apparently not enough of us. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #72

Everyone, both sides, do identity politics underpants Dec 2016 #35

Great article, thanks. George II Dec 2016 #37

Seems many are proving the points in the Article! The weird hate towards HRC seems based Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #42

Yeah, too bad we have to go through the damn primary Cha Dec 2016 #46

You need to get out more n/t ejbr Dec 2016 #49

??? Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #55

Please don't concern yourself with me. Cha Dec 2016 #58

Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat and hurt Clinton Gothmog Dec 2016 #45

"not a democrat" doesn't mean anything by itself. You want it to, but it doesn't. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #89

You are so very wrong. Gothmog Dec 2016 #127

What is a democrat then may I ask? Was Lieberman a Democrat? JCanete Dec 2016 #129

Nobody defeated Clinton but those that stole the election! n/t tom_kelly Dec 2016 #48

K&R mcar Dec 2016 #50

Misogeny Racism? Hardly. Indydem Dec 2016 #53

Honestly the voters who stayed home should be number 1 yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #54

We live in a free society. Part of that is allowing people to decide Exilednight Dec 2016 #84

Several "free societies" have compulsory voting. TwilightZone Dec 2016 #98

Are you willing to include a vote of no confidence on the ballot? Exilednight Dec 2016 #108

K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Dec 2016 #66

Misogyny #1-199 is spot on! That's is why She did so well with women voters. jmg257 Dec 2016 #69

i rank sanders much lower on that list. I rank Comey much higher. nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #71

Bill Clintons penis certainly shares the blame ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #78

My my, that argument sounds familiar! NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #99

yes it does sound familar and it was a factor, i heard often dembotoz Dec 2016 #101

Oh please, ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #102

You "heard it over and over again" NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #103

No, from Democrats. ghostsinthemachine Dec 2016 #130

There is no denying that there are sexist Democrats. JTFrog Dec 2016 #135

Oh STATE WORKERS are peddling this! NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #137

Sorry, doesn't work for me angrychair Dec 2016 #80

It was stupid to nominate MrsNAFTA /PNTR-China Dems to Win Dec 2016 #81

Damn that Bernie Sanders RazBerryBeret Dec 2016 #82

plus 1 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #119

"Enough with the emails!" - Bernie Sanders MadamPresident Dec 2016 #85

YES! Lets keep it going people! One thing that is not going to die, while there is still a DNC JCanete Dec 2016 #87

WHAT?!!11 Bernie is supposed to be 1-1000 reasons why!!1! progressoid Dec 2016 #88

Good news is that HRC won female Independents! Woohoo! Males Independt? Not so much! Trumpo did! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #95

#1 should be incompetence of HRC as a candidatae Larkspur Dec 2016 #104

Don't think of HRC as incompetent at all! See her as brilliant, competent, knowledgeable, Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #106

plus 1 red dog 1 Dec 2016 #118

Any *one* of the following could have been the difference between winning and losing: Garrett78 Dec 2016 #105

Please proceed with blaming literally the most popular Politician in the United States. n/t yodermon Dec 2016 #107

Most popular politician award winner!!! ever!!! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #109

Wow - so Bernie should have been the nominee? No misogyny, no "Sanders" no Comey, No DNC Emails, jmg257 Dec 2016 #112

I read this on HuffPo. A good list. Much better than those very short ones.. Nitram Dec 2016 #113

K&R CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #126

But, But,... The River Dec 2016 #128

K&R ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #134