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lapucelle

(19,534 posts)
11. To your original point...
Wed Dec 7, 2016, 06:23 AM
Dec 2016

I don't think we are all on the same side. If we were, Hillary would be president elect. There are lots of third party voters and election day no shows who are insisting they are some how "right" because Trump is president elect. They fail to see what is obvious to most: the "never Hillary" cohort was a major factor in putting Trump in office.

These people weren't "right"; they were ruthless narcissists who made a threat and carried it out. Clinton, Obama, and Sanders himself begged them not to do it, and the Trump team played them for all it was worth. Now they're bewildered by the anger and contempt of the 65,000,000 who (among others) will have to live with the consequences of those who were so pure that they could not vote for a woman who was eminently qualified, whose proposals did not ignore already marginalized demographics, and whose record for for liberalism matched that of a certain fiery progressive from Vermont. They will however, turn a blind eye to the environmentalist abuses of Sierra Blanca and the the broken promises concerning the single payer fight of 2008-2009.

And to add insult to injury, we have to listen to the post-campaign obnoxious pontifications on an almost daily basis of a man who was largely absent when Democrats needed him because he now has a book to sell.

If we were truly all on the same side, we would be reading about the first woman president's transition and first 100 days of enacting the most progressive platform in decades. Unfortunately, whether by accident or design, some of "us" threw the game to Team Trump.

We told them it would happen, and they did it anyway.






I don't think we are necesarily on the same side. Lunabell Dec 2016 #1
winner! Amishman Dec 2016 #15
Everything is relative. Look at Trump. We berniecrats and HRC supporters ARE on the same side lostnfound Dec 2016 #20
I feel the same. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #60
Guess what? Hillary doesn't give a rip what you think leftofcool Dec 2016 #31
more mindless drivel JCinNYC Dec 2016 #61
It is the delusional thinking that Bernie would have beaten Trump. Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #2
Former candidates named Bernie whose supporters call themselves Berniecarats lapucelle Dec 2016 #5
I think it's delusional to think that Bernie would absolutely lose NWCorona Dec 2016 #25
2 huge reasons why Bernie would have been crushed Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #37
great post.. JHan Dec 2016 #54
Camp dogwhistle? That's funny, I seem to remember there being a real camp dogwhistle back in 2008. Kentonio Dec 2016 #38
Camp Dogwhistle is Trump, not Sanders Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #39
Sorry, appears I managed to read your post and completely misunderstand it! Kentonio Dec 2016 #45
Blue is the Colour! Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #48
This is not an obsession with all of DU by any means DFW Dec 2016 #3
You forgot "third way". lapucelle Dec 2016 #6
Guilty as charged DFW Dec 2016 #17
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #52
We're not on the same side. 3rd way has shown itself to be an enemy of progressives. jfern Dec 2016 #4
I'm sure we all agree that environmental racism has to end. lapucelle Dec 2016 #7
They won't be voting 3rd way, they will be caving in to Trump leftofcool Dec 2016 #32
This will certainly put an end to the yammering. A-Schwarzenegger Dec 2016 #8
Serves to divide an already fractured party. Third Way has been sent to the woodshed, doesn't know MaeScott Dec 2016 #9
The law of the backup quarterback DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #10
To your original point... lapucelle Dec 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #13
Where did the poster indicate they preferred Lieberman? ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #33
He is selling books harder than he campaigned, and I was there in 2008 lapucelle Dec 2016 #40
Amen! Now they can keep their "we will cave in to Trump" progressives leftofcool Dec 2016 #34
Here's what one of those "we will cave in to Trump" progressives had to say lapucelle Dec 2016 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #12
respond to Bernie bashing posts ??? trueblue2007 Dec 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Dec 2016 #16
This Bernie supporter agrees with you.. lostnfound Dec 2016 #18
"All the sudden"??? Where the hell have you been the last few months? Paladin Dec 2016 #19
It had pretty much ceased during the GE Dream Girl Dec 2016 #23
People who post on JPR finally realized how bat shit crazy it is and are returning. Unfortunately, Squinch Dec 2016 #21
It was the only good thing about JPR ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #35
JPR folks returning to the fold? Dream Girl Dec 2016 #22
Yes they are. Why? I thought that DU was soooo terrible and repressive and to be mocked lunasun Dec 2016 #30
There is a way to stop the neverending bickering - don't post about it and don't respond to posts. Vinca Dec 2016 #24
More gasoline on the fire. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2016 #26
Unfortunately there's gonna be animosity towards both candidates for some here NWCorona Dec 2016 #27
Because apparently Bernie is a big top-5 reason why Hilary lost. Simple logic. nt jmg257 Dec 2016 #28
Next time around, maybe we just skip the primary? pokerfan Dec 2016 #62
Nothing wrong with a primary at all. JTFrog Dec 2016 #63
With all the evil low tactics we have just witnessed randr Dec 2016 #29
We're not on the same side. baldguy Dec 2016 #36
Well there you have it, and a blanket characterization to boot. "Stronger Apart!" JCanete Dec 2016 #42
So, your believe the RW propaganda about Clinton? baldguy Dec 2016 #58
I'm down for that. But how are you missing the threads coming from the other side that tarnish JCanete Dec 2016 #41
Angry Berniebros still angry. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #43
And vice versa NWCorona Dec 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author David__77 Dec 2016 #57
Some of those posters are JPR refugees NastyRiffraff Dec 2016 #44
It isn't "all of a sudden", and Bernie isn't a Democrat - that drivel doesn't belong here. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #46
He's more of a Democrat than a lot of Democrats. OnionPatch Dec 2016 #50
+1000000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #64
Hillary is Good. Cha Dec 2016 #49
Both good Brian King Dec 2016 #51
It seems to me that there are people angry at Clinton or angry at Sanders. David__77 Dec 2016 #53
I am suspicious of posts like this. HassleCat Dec 2016 #55
Give it some time. Emotions are still azmom Dec 2016 #56
Neither will run again, so all this arguing will eventually come to an end. Give it a few years. grossproffit Dec 2016 #65
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