2016 Postmortem

stevenleser

(32,886 posts) Sun Dec 11, 2016, 10:54 AM Dec 2016

So, Hillary had Russian intelligence, the leader of the FBI, Trump/GOP, the Media, Bernie or Busters [View all]

and various other holier than thou Progressives against her and the fact that she was the first woman candidate from a major party with all the attendant sexism and she still won the popular vote?

And the BoB crowd is still saying she wasn't a strong candidate?

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So, Hillary had Russian intelligence, the leader of the FBI, Trump/GOP, the Media, Bernie or Busters [View all] stevenleser Dec 2016 OP

But Bernie was leading in polls!!... SidDithers Dec 2016 #1

And what fomented the loss of Indys, X-Over Reps and Millennials? HRC selecting Kaine over Sanders TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #22

What makes you think Bernie wanted to play second fiddle? pnwmom Dec 2016 #35

More assumptions and hyperbole based in perception, not reality. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #36

yes.. you see some want to deny that the Russian involvement OKNancy Dec 2016 #2

Yep...and it is never ending. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #3

Because they bought into the hate completely and salivated over Guccifer and spread this bettyellen Dec 2016 #28

But the Puritanicals saved us all. Basic LA Dec 2016 #4

And over at JPR they are still posting comments patting themselves on the back for just that stevenleser Dec 2016 #5

When Manny started calling himself "comrade" I knew he was playing to the bettyellen Dec 2016 #33

And Yet They Can Believe Me. Dec 2016 #6

What if she also had Republican vote tamperers, and actually won the election, both ... planetc Dec 2016 #7

Gee,maybe you should be more worried about the Russian hack then digging up the primarys libtodeath Dec 2016 #8

Maybe I can walk and chew gum at the same time. But thanks for your concern. Oh and BTW stevenleser Dec 2016 #10

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Or more likely you can't handle the points being raised so you are going ad-hominem? stevenleser Dec 2016 #13

Nice try to smear me but your posts show exactly who you are and beholden to. libtodeath Dec 2016 #16

Nope, you are the one who can't debate facts. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #17

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Nope, everything you accused me of you also accused Bernie of, but you havent figured that out yet. stevenleser Dec 2016 #15

Appearing for an interview is the same as promoting a anti american network. libtodeath Dec 2016 #18

And if you believe that, then Bernie did the same thing. I realize you can't respond but stevenleser Dec 2016 #19

status confirmed ucrdem Dec 2016 #55

And the loser of the primaries is being WhiteTara Dec 2016 #9

They've always been full of shit ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #11

Comey... SidDithers Dec 2016 #20

It can't be because Bernies special sauce was what would have saved us. stevenleser Dec 2016 #64

I voted for Clinton. She lost. David__77 Dec 2016 #21

In my opinion, we all lost. classof56 Dec 2016 #26

She was a strong candidate with a failed campaign. dogman Dec 2016 #23

No she wasn't. The nation is sick of political dynasties. Jeb Bush lost for the same reason. nt Gore1FL Dec 2016 #24

"And the BoB crowd is still saying she wasn't a strong candidate? " tecelote Dec 2016 #25

Were you BoB? stevenleser Dec 2016 #34

I voted for Bernie then I voted for Hillary. tecelote Dec 2016 #43

I don't want unrepentant BoBers or Naderites or Pumas in my coalition stevenleser Dec 2016 #46

Hang on to your hate, it makes you look just as smart. tecelote Dec 2016 #47

Nope, not hate, empirical analysis. You should work on understanding what that means. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #48

Oooh! tecelote Dec 2016 #49

What you do or don't do is of no concern to me. stevenleser Dec 2016 #50

What do you mean by unrepentent el_bryanto Dec 2016 #53

It means those who did not vote for Gore, Obama or Hillary and believe that was the right choice. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #57

That's a clever game melman Dec 2016 #44

Words have meanings. If you are going to be offended by a characterization stevenleser Dec 2016 #45

In retrospect AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #27

Comey, voter suppression And Russia... Empirical factors everything else is guessing uponit7771 Dec 2016 #30

Did she light her hair on fire and blow up Isis? No?!?! Well there it is then uponit7771 Dec 2016 #29

Only because so many here at DU ... KPN Dec 2016 #31

Hillary was probably the most qualified person ever for the job. But I voted Bernie in the primary. Glassunion Dec 2016 #32

And people wonder why the support from Progressives was lukewarm... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #37

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #38

Oh, they're trying, Steven.. falling flat Cha Dec 2016 #39

They are heavily invested in that Sanders special sauce. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #40

It's ridiculous. Cha Dec 2016 #41

Hillary was always committed to hard work and getting things done. oasis Dec 2016 #42

And here I thought it was finally OK to come back... janx Dec 2016 #51

With Trump in power how will the media, FBI, GOP and Russia change? jalan48 Dec 2016 #52

Three words for you concerning Hillary's abilities as a candidate. denbot Dec 2016 #54

Five words back at you... stevenleser Dec 2016 #59

A few questions for you. Exilednight Dec 2016 #56

A few answers stevenleser Dec 2016 #60

My Retort Exilednight Dec 2016 #61

Now you are being silly stevenleser Dec 2016 #68

"Now you are being silly", says the man who can't Exilednight Dec 2016 #70

I already rebuffed them. Nothing you wrote addresses my points. It was just silly. Nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #72

You made excuses, not rational points. Exilednight Dec 2016 #73

K&R! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #58

It is not just her anymore. It is the entire democratic party too AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #62

Or it's the few of you who enabled the election of Trump and/or "W" and/or stevenleser Dec 2016 #63

That's right. I am just THAT effing powerful. Nevermind the propaganda media machine AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #65

Nope, you're not. But as in any Democracy, group enough folks together and they can influence stevenleser Dec 2016 #66

I Got what I wanted? I WISH!!!....You're not paying attention.... AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #69

Not to mention the Shelby County v. Holder decision, and 25+ years of vicious slander. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #67

Some people are resistant to facts. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #71