2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

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6. Clinton voters didn't fail us.

Sun Dec 11, 2016, 01:21 PM

Dec 2016

All votes not cast at all or not cast for Hillary Clinton were votes for Trump. Every one of them. We all knew the election was a binary choice. It always is. I'm not blaming Democrats. They voted for the Democratic candidate. I assume almost everyone on DU voted for Clinton. I'm not blaming anyone here who voted for her. I certainly did, and she won my state.

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We were warned. We actually knew this could happen. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2016 OP

I'm going to say Trump is fat. While I still can. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #1

He is fat and ugly MFM008 Dec 2016 #9

Whatever. Say whatever you like. MineralMan Dec 2016 #10

That's okay. The poster above trumped me in the game sense anyway. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2016 #41

Uh, so? cwydro Dec 2016 #48

Mineral Man doesn't approve of body shaming. It goes back a while. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #51

Liberals generally are not big on body shaming. Dislike seeing it here bettyellen Dec 2016 #54

We can sure get off on tangents here. rzemanfl Dec 2016 #55

Democrats didn't fail. The blame rests fully on the Trump voters. duffyduff Dec 2016 #2

Clinton voters didn't fail us. MineralMan Dec 2016 #6

+1 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Dec 2016 #28

I agree with you, MM. murielm99 Dec 2016 #31

Actually MM, I saw several posts here where DUers said they would happily vote third party. cwydro Dec 2016 #50

Yes. I remember who they were, too MineralMan Dec 2016 #56

I wonder if they know we remember them. cwydro Dec 2016 #57

Right Cosmocat Dec 2016 #36

We were also warned about nominating a candidate with so much baggage Exilednight Dec 2016 #3

Not Clinton's fault and you know it. duffyduff Dec 2016 #5

Why include Bloomberg? progressoid Dec 2016 #23

Probably because Bloomberg said at one point that he would Tanuki Dec 2016 #38

absolutely AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #37

I never mentioned Sanders. Exilednight Dec 2016 #66

Hillary Clinton was the Party's nominee. She won that nomination MineralMan Dec 2016 #7

It is her fault. She lacks the skills to get out from all the baggage she carries. Exilednight Dec 2016 #39

I agree with your post metroins Dec 2016 #44

Nice to accuse like the GOP has for 25 years, but please explain what "actual" baggage world wide wally Dec 2016 #49

Baggage comes in all forms. It doesn't have to be something Exilednight Dec 2016 #67

Hillary tried to warn people. No one was listening. leftofcool Dec 2016 #4

Yes, she did. She was right. MineralMan Dec 2016 #8

We knew about russian hacking libtodeath Dec 2016 #11

Yes, we did, and well before the election. MineralMan Dec 2016 #13

Or they would have just upped the vote count against us. libtodeath Dec 2016 #15

See, that only works up to a certain point. MineralMan Dec 2016 #18

Not with a hack. libtodeath Dec 2016 #19

You can't hack a voting machine from a remote location. Exilednight Dec 2016 #68

Now faced with the realization that a hostile foreign government hijacked an American election AnotherMother4Peace Dec 2016 #12

Roughly 80,000 votes in three states would have made MineralMan Dec 2016 #14

Glad you can just shrug it off libtodeath Dec 2016 #16

How am I "shrugging it off?" MineralMan Dec 2016 #20

We dont fight for recounts or a revote given the circumstances? libtodeath Dec 2016 #22

There are recounts ongoing. MineralMan Dec 2016 #24

I am shrugging it off. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #32

The warnings that you are talking about mtnsnake Dec 2016 #17

I'm only talking about the general election campaign. MineralMan Dec 2016 #21

I ran into this one neo-con couple in my neck of the woods mtnsnake Dec 2016 #25

I was also sure Clinton would win. MineralMan Dec 2016 #26

I thought he had a chance and I was nervous. My friend said, "No way". Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #35

Nate Silver zipplewrath Dec 2016 #60

Indeed. I was on 438 daily. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #65

Two near certainties in every election HassleCat Dec 2016 #27

We didn't fail because we were warned. ananda Dec 2016 #29

I voted the earliest that I've ever voted in a general election. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #30

There are Cassandras of the party. Don't call them paranoid. Heed them. Help build the evidence. ancianita Dec 2016 #33

No one wanted to listen to the warnings. Gore1FL Dec 2016 #34

we all saw it coming AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #40

I was talked down to by a few tom_kelly Dec 2016 #42

I keep thinking of the Yoda metaphor. Initech Dec 2016 #43

Armageddon dhol82 Dec 2016 #45

The force? fills after the vacuum of suffering uponit7771 Dec 2016 #58

And? LisaL Dec 2016 #46

You can't hide from yourself. liquid diamond Dec 2016 #47

There were also LOTS of warnings here after the Comey bullshit stunt. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #52

I was one of the DUers that posted about the Danger of Comey's statement UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #63

No, its not Clintons fault. J_William_Ryan Dec 2016 #53

KnR Hekate Dec 2016 #59

Well. you also posted that the polls were not giving Hillary the actual count. cwydro Dec 2016 #61

Actually, we DID listen. And we said we can't afford to waste time on a corrosive primary. ucrdem Dec 2016 #62

Right 'cause not challenging HRC in the primary would have won over the 40% of Dem primary voters aikoaiko Dec 2016 #64