2016 Postmortem

Yurovsky

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37. And people wonder why the support from Progressives was lukewarm...

Sun Dec 11, 2016, 11:09 PM

Dec 2016

The OP calling committed progressives "holier than thou" is just a typical slam against folks like myself. Hell, even when I went back on my word and voted for Hillary in the general, some of my fellow Democrats bitched that I hadn't done enough. Like some how me giving HRC - an extremely wealthy person - a few hundred dollars would have made a difference.

I think a lot of Bernie voters came around and voted for HRC, even if we had serious misgivings about her. Yet we're the "holier than thou" crowd?

I give up. At some point the smarter folks in our party who are spending hour upon hour looking for someone to blame for Hillary losing will finally come to the conclusion that many like I have - she's just didn't come off as relatable or likeable. She has to ultimately accept responsibility
and help the party move on.

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So, Hillary had Russian intelligence, the leader of the FBI, Trump/GOP, the Media, Bernie or Busters [View all] stevenleser Dec 2016 OP

But Bernie was leading in polls!!... SidDithers Dec 2016 #1

And what fomented the loss of Indys, X-Over Reps and Millennials? HRC selecting Kaine over Sanders TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #22

What makes you think Bernie wanted to play second fiddle? pnwmom Dec 2016 #35

More assumptions and hyperbole based in perception, not reality. TheBlackAdder Dec 2016 #36

yes.. you see some want to deny that the Russian involvement OKNancy Dec 2016 #2

Yep...and it is never ending. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #3

Because they bought into the hate completely and salivated over Guccifer and spread this bettyellen Dec 2016 #28

But the Puritanicals saved us all. Basic LA Dec 2016 #4

And over at JPR they are still posting comments patting themselves on the back for just that stevenleser Dec 2016 #5

When Manny started calling himself "comrade" I knew he was playing to the bettyellen Dec 2016 #33

And Yet They Can Believe Me. Dec 2016 #6

What if she also had Republican vote tamperers, and actually won the election, both ... planetc Dec 2016 #7

Gee,maybe you should be more worried about the Russian hack then digging up the primarys libtodeath Dec 2016 #8

Maybe I can walk and chew gum at the same time. But thanks for your concern. Oh and BTW stevenleser Dec 2016 #10

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Or more likely you can't handle the points being raised so you are going ad-hominem? stevenleser Dec 2016 #13

Nice try to smear me but your posts show exactly who you are and beholden to. libtodeath Dec 2016 #16

Nope, you are the one who can't debate facts. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #17

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #14

Nope, everything you accused me of you also accused Bernie of, but you havent figured that out yet. stevenleser Dec 2016 #15

Appearing for an interview is the same as promoting a anti american network. libtodeath Dec 2016 #18

And if you believe that, then Bernie did the same thing. I realize you can't respond but stevenleser Dec 2016 #19

status confirmed ucrdem Dec 2016 #55

And the loser of the primaries is being WhiteTara Dec 2016 #9

They've always been full of shit ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #11

Comey... SidDithers Dec 2016 #20

It can't be because Bernies special sauce was what would have saved us. stevenleser Dec 2016 #64

I voted for Clinton. She lost. David__77 Dec 2016 #21

In my opinion, we all lost. classof56 Dec 2016 #26

She was a strong candidate with a failed campaign. dogman Dec 2016 #23

No she wasn't. The nation is sick of political dynasties. Jeb Bush lost for the same reason. nt Gore1FL Dec 2016 #24

"And the BoB crowd is still saying she wasn't a strong candidate? " tecelote Dec 2016 #25

Were you BoB? stevenleser Dec 2016 #34

I voted for Bernie then I voted for Hillary. tecelote Dec 2016 #43

I don't want unrepentant BoBers or Naderites or Pumas in my coalition stevenleser Dec 2016 #46

Hang on to your hate, it makes you look just as smart. tecelote Dec 2016 #47

Nope, not hate, empirical analysis. You should work on understanding what that means. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #48

Oooh! tecelote Dec 2016 #49

What you do or don't do is of no concern to me. stevenleser Dec 2016 #50

What do you mean by unrepentent el_bryanto Dec 2016 #53

It means those who did not vote for Gore, Obama or Hillary and believe that was the right choice. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #57

That's a clever game melman Dec 2016 #44

Words have meanings. If you are going to be offended by a characterization stevenleser Dec 2016 #45

In retrospect AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #27

Comey, voter suppression And Russia... Empirical factors everything else is guessing uponit7771 Dec 2016 #30

Did she light her hair on fire and blow up Isis? No?!?! Well there it is then uponit7771 Dec 2016 #29

Only because so many here at DU ... KPN Dec 2016 #31

Hillary was probably the most qualified person ever for the job. But I voted Bernie in the primary. Glassunion Dec 2016 #32

And people wonder why the support from Progressives was lukewarm... Yurovsky Dec 2016 #37

K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #38

Oh, they're trying, Steven.. falling flat Cha Dec 2016 #39

They are heavily invested in that Sanders special sauce. nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #40

It's ridiculous. Cha Dec 2016 #41

Hillary was always committed to hard work and getting things done. oasis Dec 2016 #42

And here I thought it was finally OK to come back... janx Dec 2016 #51

With Trump in power how will the media, FBI, GOP and Russia change? jalan48 Dec 2016 #52

Three words for you concerning Hillary's abilities as a candidate. denbot Dec 2016 #54

Five words back at you... stevenleser Dec 2016 #59

A few questions for you. Exilednight Dec 2016 #56

A few answers stevenleser Dec 2016 #60

My Retort Exilednight Dec 2016 #61

Now you are being silly stevenleser Dec 2016 #68

"Now you are being silly", says the man who can't Exilednight Dec 2016 #70

I already rebuffed them. Nothing you wrote addresses my points. It was just silly. Nt stevenleser Dec 2016 #72

You made excuses, not rational points. Exilednight Dec 2016 #73

K&R! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #58

It is not just her anymore. It is the entire democratic party too AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #62

Or it's the few of you who enabled the election of Trump and/or "W" and/or stevenleser Dec 2016 #63

That's right. I am just THAT effing powerful. Nevermind the propaganda media machine AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #65

Nope, you're not. But as in any Democracy, group enough folks together and they can influence stevenleser Dec 2016 #66

I Got what I wanted? I WISH!!!....You're not paying attention.... AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #69

Not to mention the Shelby County v. Holder decision, and 25+ years of vicious slander. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #67

Some people are resistant to facts. n/t duffyduff Dec 2016 #71