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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: So, Hillary had Russian intelligence, the leader of the FBI, Trump/GOP, the Media, Bernie or Busters [View all]Exilednight
(9,359 posts)61. My Retort
Because he was six years into a successful Presidency where the economy was booming and foreign relations were doing well. There is nothing like success to beat back your critics.
That answer could hold water if it weren't for the fact that his approval rating spiked a record 10% in less than week.
The difference is, Bill knew how to spin the story against Republicans, something Hillary was unable to do. According to her own admission, she is poor retail politician.
See my answer to #1. If she had been six years into a successful Presidency it would have been no problem.
You have to win before you get six years. Besides that, Bill had allegations leveled against him before he even won the presidency. Again, why can he do it, and she can't? In case you are wondering, see what I typed above.
Obama had a massively failing Republican President to hang around his GOP opponents neck. We could have run Ted Bundy and won.
Hillary ran against THE MOST UNQUALIFIED candidate in the history of this country. Obama ran against what many pundits and strategist from both parties viewed as moderate Republican who could bring stability and sanity back to the Republican Party.
If fundamental principles like Democracy are important to you, then the popular vote getter in an election should matter. If those things aren't important to you, then you might be able to brush it off.
First, we don't live in a democracy, we live in a Republic which is a representative democracy. Should the popular vote matter? Yes. Does it? Absolutely not, and it probably never will in our lifetime.
I will guarantee you this though, if roles were reversed and Hillary had won the EC and Trump won the popular vote, you wouldn't be crying about the popular vote getter not winning. That's the definition of hypocrisy.
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So, Hillary had Russian intelligence, the leader of the FBI, Trump/GOP, the Media, Bernie or Busters [View all]
stevenleser
Dec 2016
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And what fomented the loss of Indys, X-Over Reps and Millennials? HRC selecting Kaine over Sanders
TheBlackAdder
Dec 2016
#22
Because they bought into the hate completely and salivated over Guccifer and spread this
bettyellen
Dec 2016
#28
And over at JPR they are still posting comments patting themselves on the back for just that
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#5
What if she also had Republican vote tamperers, and actually won the election, both ...
planetc
Dec 2016
#7
Gee,maybe you should be more worried about the Russian hack then digging up the primarys
libtodeath
Dec 2016
#8
Maybe I can walk and chew gum at the same time. But thanks for your concern. Oh and BTW
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#10
Or more likely you can't handle the points being raised so you are going ad-hominem?
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#13
Nice try to smear me but your posts show exactly who you are and beholden to.
libtodeath
Dec 2016
#16
Nope, everything you accused me of you also accused Bernie of, but you havent figured that out yet.
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#15
Appearing for an interview is the same as promoting a anti american network.
libtodeath
Dec 2016
#18
And if you believe that, then Bernie did the same thing. I realize you can't respond but
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#19
No she wasn't. The nation is sick of political dynasties. Jeb Bush lost for the same reason. nt
Gore1FL
Dec 2016
#24
Nope, not hate, empirical analysis. You should work on understanding what that means. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#48
It means those who did not vote for Gore, Obama or Hillary and believe that was the right choice. nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#57
Comey, voter suppression And Russia... Empirical factors everything else is guessing
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#30
Did she light her hair on fire and blow up Isis? No?!?! Well there it is then
uponit7771
Dec 2016
#29
Hillary was probably the most qualified person ever for the job. But I voted Bernie in the primary.
Glassunion
Dec 2016
#32
I already rebuffed them. Nothing you wrote addresses my points. It was just silly. Nt
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#72
That's right. I am just THAT effing powerful. Nevermind the propaganda media machine
AgadorSparticus
Dec 2016
#65
Nope, you're not. But as in any Democracy, group enough folks together and they can influence
stevenleser
Dec 2016
#66
Not to mention the Shelby County v. Holder decision, and 25+ years of vicious slander.
Garrett78
Dec 2016
#67