2016 Postmortem

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5. He owes money to foreign banks...

Tue Dec 13, 2016, 01:57 PM

Dec 2016

Forget treason, that's too hard to prove. The explanation for why we have the electoral college is to prevent someone from taking power that 'owes' foreigners.

Obviously I'm paraphrasing and even simplifying, but if there is proof that Trump personally owes money (or has holdings) in a foreign country he's in violation of the framers justification for the electoral college.

His financial records need to be made public before the electoral college vote so that his qualification can be evaluated before the electors cast their vote.

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Cyber War *IS* *STILL* an act of WAR. This is TREASON. [View all] LaydeeBug Dec 2016 OP

Treason committed by whom? Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #1

welcome to du. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #2

Thank you! Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #3

Jose MFM008 Dec 2016 #7

Who told them about it? Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #8

Well since I didnt take the call myself MFM008 Dec 2016 #9

So, you are simply assuming that they knew without any actual proof? Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #10

no but im assuming MFM008 Dec 2016 #13

Trump's team knew about upcoming Wikileaks revelations Qutzupalotl Dec 2016 #14

Thank you. Jose Garcia Dec 2016 #16

My thoughts as well. triron Dec 2016 #4

He owes money to foreign banks... Blanks Dec 2016 #5

this is a very cogent point, but just because it's hard to prove doesn't mean LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #6

Unless you have proof ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #29

If the right wants to use insinuation and belief meow2u3 Dec 2016 #43

You're not considering ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #56

That's one reason he postponed triron Dec 2016 #12

Actually, plainly and simply it is not treason. tritsofme Dec 2016 #11

Section 3 of article III of the constitution triron Dec 2016 #21

So are you arguing for treason or espionage? These words are not just insults. tritsofme Dec 2016 #27

Actually, it is. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #22

If fairy tales help you sleep better at night... tritsofme Dec 2016 #24

No fairy tale. But I appreicate your attempt to marginalize a bloodless coup. Please pretend some LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #26

I choose to live in a reality based community. tritsofme Dec 2016 #30

Here you are in cyber space talking about being in a reality based community. LOL LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #32

Do you favor the imposition of the Death Penalty for those guilty of treason? el_bryanto Dec 2016 #15

nice try. no dice. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #17

It's a simple question - - all you have to do is say yes and no. nt el_bryanto Dec 2016 #18

Actually, that is NOT "all I have to do". Again. Nice try. No dice. Still treason LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #19

OK - well - sorry to have offended you by asking the obvious question nt el_bryanto Dec 2016 #23

It's not an abvious question...it's a bunny trail one. You're welcome. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #25

Rather than admit any flaws in our losing candidate, people are flinging around accusations of dionysus Dec 2016 #62

That's a leap. First of all I supported Sanders and was never enthusiastic about el_bryanto Dec 2016 #63

You may have misunderstood, i am agreeing with you... dionysus Dec 2016 #64

K&R red dog 1 Dec 2016 #20

The treason claim is a slippery slope. onenote Dec 2016 #28

The appropriate charges against domestic actors is TREASON LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #31

So you would agree that Jane Fonda was guilty of treason? onenote Dec 2016 #33

Conflate much? nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #36

I'm not the one that said:"The appropriate charges against domestic actors is TREASON onenote Dec 2016 #38

Again, you conflate an anti-war protest/er with enabling a bloodless coup. Pretend. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #39

What constitutes aid and comfort in your eyes? onenote Dec 2016 #40

what's yours? LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #45

Nice attempt at deflection, but if you can't defend your position onenote Dec 2016 #49

and not mine to *submit* to you. Good luck. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #54

You aren't going to get an intellectually honest response to these questions mythology Dec 2016 #50

LOL!!! Coming from a handle named mythology, oh, the irony is not lost. LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #55

No law background at all triron Dec 2016 #34

I agree that it is incredibly serious (as I said in my post). onenote Dec 2016 #35

Who didn't know about it? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #37

I think that is exactly what the poster is referring to ("doing") triron Dec 2016 #41

kick for visibility triron Dec 2016 #42

If cyberwar is still an act of War sarisataka Dec 2016 #44

They attacked us...cyber war is STILL war. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #47

I'll assume that is sarisataka Dec 2016 #48

yes Jean-Jacques Roussea Dec 2016 #51

I thought Biden said we would hit back (this time) triron Dec 2016 #52

knr triron Dec 2016 #46

True, it is the same thing as buying guns from russia with the intent to overthrow the US government UCmeNdc Dec 2016 #53

knr again triron Dec 2016 #57

shameless kick. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #58

There is no war.. speaktruthtopower Dec 2016 #59

Cyber war is still an act of war, and no, war does not have to be declared... LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #60

So what are we going to do to combat China? NobodyHere Dec 2016 #61