2016 Postmortem

yodermon

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21. and such a lousy campaign got him the 4th most votes in Dem Primary History,

Wed Dec 14, 2016, 01:08 PM

Dec 2016

and with no corporate donors(!). Instead of punching down on him from your DNC high horse, why don't you take a look at what *worked* in his campaign, as Harry Reid an Chuck Schumer are suggesting, and then leveraging that into the Democratic party going forward. He has his flaws? of course. Was he the perfect candidate? there is no such thing. But surely you recognize that he tapped into *something* that has been missing from the Democratic party for some time now.

If you're just gonna dismiss him and his message wholesale because "he lost"; well guess what: Hillary LOST so what should we do with HER strategy, hmmmmmmm?

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Reid: 'The DNC has done nothing for state organizations [View all] think Dec 2016 OP

Reid. The position is waiting. +1. He would be a great fighter. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #1

I doubt he'd want it yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #6

Not sure if he would or not. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #7

I agree. He's been doing great knocking repugs since election yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #9

I can REALLY see your immense concern, yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #30

actually he only used the nuclear option on appointees (except for SCOTUS) dsc Dec 2016 #44

Oh thanks. So regardless we're fucked for four years yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #48

Are you taunting us again, yeoman6987? Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #50

Glad to see Bernie getting credit for being a fundraising genius. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #2

He just replicated what Howard Dean did. And Howard Dean was passed over by Sanders supporters KittyWampus Dec 2016 #13

Thanks for pointing that out. Howard Dean WhiteTara Dec 2016 #16

Bernie did no such thing... he's an original! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #55

"But Bernie LOST!!!" wait for it yodermon Dec 2016 #3

Factual statement but I'm not sure what it has to do with the op. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #8

Nothing to do with the OP poster. I'm referencing yodermon Dec 2016 #12

The only way your point is relevant is if you are stating the op has a track record. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #15

I'm completely confused. I agree with the OP and Harry Reid. yodermon Dec 2016 #17

"I'm completely confused. I agree with the OP and Harry Reid." NCTraveler Dec 2016 #20

Respectfully, I don't see Yoderman's comments directed in a personal way... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #41

I sure would like a Democrat to lead the Democratic Party WhiteTara Dec 2016 #18

party over policy. duly noted. yodermon Dec 2016 #22

actually for party chair that is rather the point dsc Dec 2016 #45

Even afer Bernie recycles himself in the Vermont mountains, the Party must overhaul itself... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #42

He IS a Democrat. pangaia Dec 2016 #51

He SELF declares as an Independent WhiteTara Dec 2016 #56

He is a democrat. pangaia Dec 2016 #57

Well, don't tell him that. I asked his office WhiteTara Dec 2016 #59

See, here is the issue. you are talking about a word,, I am talking about what he does pangaia Dec 2016 #60

Sanders is a liberal. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #61

He sure did. Ran a lousy campaign that did nothing to register voters and get them to the polls AND KittyWampus Dec 2016 #14

and such a lousy campaign got him the 4th most votes in Dem Primary History, yodermon Dec 2016 #21

He never released his taxes. And he and his wife came up with bogus story after bogus story. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #23

To hell with Bernie then. The person/personality, just fuck him. *What of his message?* yodermon Dec 2016 #24

His only message was ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #27

Do you really care about his taxes? In terms of ideology, Bernie is much closer... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #34

if we care about Trump's taxes, and I for one do, then we should also care about Bernie's dsc Dec 2016 #46

Yeah, he impacted the norms of civility without any concern for the race for POTUS.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #52

Working on local Campaign in 2014 Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #33

IMO, the Party has written off most states, preferring to eke out just a few... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #38

In 2000 the one statement that hit home was, Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #40

He won Michigan. KamaAina Dec 2016 #62

the next head of the DNC should study the Reid machine in NV as a model nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #4

The Nevada Reid Machine is the Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #35

Thanks, Debbie! Iggo Dec 2016 #5

She was a complete and utter disaster. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #10

They need to make a lot of changes NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #11

More importantly, IMO, we need a strong, clear, aggressive liberal speaking the gospel. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #29

I was hoping NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #32

"There's a DNC?" Lochloosa Dec 2016 #19

To Floridians, DNC means Democrats Not Certifiable. By Debbie. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #39

Or not on the ballot. Lochloosa Dec 2016 #53

Maybe it's because they don't have the dough? frazzled Dec 2016 #25

Debbie sent me two hard copy mailings, asking me to rate issue importance... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #43

I'm sure many Texas Democrats support gun safety measures frazzled Dec 2016 #47

Answers: Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #66

Yeah, and DWS was also vocal about her support for imprisoning medical marijuana users. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #58

She showed like a peacock on gun control and pot prohibition, both. In FL and TX. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #65

How does the DNC get money? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #26

If Harry Reid is saying this, TAKE NOTE establishment Democrats. NT Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #28

Paging Doctor Howard Dean! Paging Howard Dean! Oh wait... apnu Dec 2016 #31

Why get the right person for the job when it's someone else's turn? Iggo Dec 2016 #37

We definitely need to do more to win at the state and local level. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #36

Yup, Reid is right. The primary showed us that we can skip big donors and still raise funds. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #54

But what about Hillary's DNC deal with the states? Didn't that help them? JudyM Dec 2016 #63

Um, yeah, Harry, we know all that. JudyM Dec 2016 #64