2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How Clinton lost Michigan and blew the election [View all]synergie
(1,901 posts)I was in MI, and we were knocking on doors, talking to people and listening to them.
Know what we heard? A bunch of bitter, ignorant folks who bought the Bernie nonsense about "rigging", who kept spouting out RW talking points and claiming that's why they were just too darned precious to vote.
Talk to these people and the ones who were not completely brainwashed, and they were shocked to learn some simple facts about the woman they had been taught to hate. They literally didn't realize that it was important to vote in local elections, and that's why they were busy railing about whatever BS they'd heard about on the internet from those frothing a lot, and using very few facts, and not seeing actual progress.
Also, MI came out to vote. Their votes were not counted. 75,000 in Wayne county were not counted. Instead of actually addressing the ways in which people were disenfranchised, folks concerned about their purity were busy foaming at the mouth about things being rigged.
These were not all Bernie supporters, many of whom were dedicated both in the volunteer sphere and the organizers. These were the ones contributing to the 10,000 who voted for Trump, the 80,000 who supposedly didn't vote for president. We won't know how many those truly were due to the GOP dirty tricks to NOT COUNT VOTES, but the ones we saw while the recount actually progressed (it ended the day it would have been finished in the largest counties), idiots who wrote in Bernie, and didn't bother to vote for anyone else on the ballot. They didn't even check the straight party box, not for the Greens, not for Dems (which would have made a HUGE difference in MI).
There were some bitter Berners, and there were people with some people with legitimate complaints about how the campaign was run, that happens in ALL elections, but this politico hit job is pure bunk, and that's from a ground level view.
The votes were there, people showed up, in nearly record numbers and the enthusiasm was most definitely there, but the votes were not counted. Not in key Democratic, and minority areas. 87 freaking broken machines in Detroit that were not counted. That's why she lost MI. And the Nazi vote. MI has lots of them, that people seem to forget that little tidbit. The militias came out. They came out to harass the campaign offices. They came to drive by and spew abuse. They were out in force with the army of Trump lawyers and every single corrupt Republican who did everything they could to NOT count votes, to purge people from voter records, etc.
There were other issues on the ground, but in no way does that touch the fact that VOTES WERE NOT COUNTED!!!!
Nor does it account for the purity patrol who literally screwed everyone with their complete nonsense, even when the threat of Trump became more and more clear. Let's not forget that part of the equation, which is the one that MOST affected MI.