2016 Postmortem

Eleanors38

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Thu Dec 15, 2016, 01:56 PM

Dec 2016

1). She or anyone can ask all they want, but politically its a no-win issue.

2). The issue is big for certain elite groups in the Party, of passing interest to some more. But there is little evidence to indicate it is a major issue.

3). No need to mimic Republicans. I have held to my pro-2A position long before the GOPers started cashing in big-time on this issue.

It's time Democrats dropped this issue, esp. since crime rates via guns are down significantly, childhood accident deaths via guns are a fraction of what they used to be, and the courts have ruled consistently in favor of 2A. This is a culture war issue whereby Democrats have proven to all how politically masochistic they are.

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Reid: 'The DNC has done nothing for state organizations [View all] think Dec 2016 OP

Reid. The position is waiting. +1. He would be a great fighter. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #1

I doubt he'd want it yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #6

Not sure if he would or not. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #7

I agree. He's been doing great knocking repugs since election yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #9

I can REALLY see your immense concern, yeoman6987. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #30

actually he only used the nuclear option on appointees (except for SCOTUS) dsc Dec 2016 #44

Oh thanks. So regardless we're fucked for four years yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #48

Are you taunting us again, yeoman6987? Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #50

Glad to see Bernie getting credit for being a fundraising genius. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #2

He just replicated what Howard Dean did. And Howard Dean was passed over by Sanders supporters KittyWampus Dec 2016 #13

Thanks for pointing that out. Howard Dean WhiteTara Dec 2016 #16

Bernie did no such thing... he's an original! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #55

"But Bernie LOST!!!" wait for it yodermon Dec 2016 #3

Factual statement but I'm not sure what it has to do with the op. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #8

Nothing to do with the OP poster. I'm referencing yodermon Dec 2016 #12

The only way your point is relevant is if you are stating the op has a track record. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #15

I'm completely confused. I agree with the OP and Harry Reid. yodermon Dec 2016 #17

"I'm completely confused. I agree with the OP and Harry Reid." NCTraveler Dec 2016 #20

Respectfully, I don't see Yoderman's comments directed in a personal way... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #41

I sure would like a Democrat to lead the Democratic Party WhiteTara Dec 2016 #18

party over policy. duly noted. yodermon Dec 2016 #22

actually for party chair that is rather the point dsc Dec 2016 #45

Even afer Bernie recycles himself in the Vermont mountains, the Party must overhaul itself... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #42

He IS a Democrat. pangaia Dec 2016 #51

He SELF declares as an Independent WhiteTara Dec 2016 #56

He is a democrat. pangaia Dec 2016 #57

Well, don't tell him that. I asked his office WhiteTara Dec 2016 #59

See, here is the issue. you are talking about a word,, I am talking about what he does pangaia Dec 2016 #60

Sanders is a liberal. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #61

He sure did. Ran a lousy campaign that did nothing to register voters and get them to the polls AND KittyWampus Dec 2016 #14

and such a lousy campaign got him the 4th most votes in Dem Primary History, yodermon Dec 2016 #21

He never released his taxes. And he and his wife came up with bogus story after bogus story. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #23

To hell with Bernie then. The person/personality, just fuck him. *What of his message?* yodermon Dec 2016 #24

His only message was ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #27

Do you really care about his taxes? In terms of ideology, Bernie is much closer... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #34

if we care about Trump's taxes, and I for one do, then we should also care about Bernie's dsc Dec 2016 #46

Yeah, he impacted the norms of civility without any concern for the race for POTUS.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #52

Working on local Campaign in 2014 Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #33

IMO, the Party has written off most states, preferring to eke out just a few... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #38

In 2000 the one statement that hit home was, Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #40

He won Michigan. KamaAina Dec 2016 #62

the next head of the DNC should study the Reid machine in NV as a model nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #4

The Nevada Reid Machine is the Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #35

Thanks, Debbie! Iggo Dec 2016 #5

She was a complete and utter disaster. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #10

They need to make a lot of changes NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #11

More importantly, IMO, we need a strong, clear, aggressive liberal speaking the gospel. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #29

I was hoping NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #32

"There's a DNC?" Lochloosa Dec 2016 #19

To Floridians, DNC means Democrats Not Certifiable. By Debbie. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #39

Or not on the ballot. Lochloosa Dec 2016 #53

Maybe it's because they don't have the dough? frazzled Dec 2016 #25

Debbie sent me two hard copy mailings, asking me to rate issue importance... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #43

I'm sure many Texas Democrats support gun safety measures frazzled Dec 2016 #47

Answers: Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #66

Yeah, and DWS was also vocal about her support for imprisoning medical marijuana users. Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #58

She showed like a peacock on gun control and pot prohibition, both. In FL and TX. Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #65

How does the DNC get money? HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #49

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #26

If Harry Reid is saying this, TAKE NOTE establishment Democrats. NT Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #28

Paging Doctor Howard Dean! Paging Howard Dean! Oh wait... apnu Dec 2016 #31

Why get the right person for the job when it's someone else's turn? Iggo Dec 2016 #37

We definitely need to do more to win at the state and local level. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #36

Yup, Reid is right. The primary showed us that we can skip big donors and still raise funds. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #54

But what about Hillary's DNC deal with the states? Didn't that help them? JudyM Dec 2016 #63

Um, yeah, Harry, we know all that. JudyM Dec 2016 #64