2016 Postmortem

ZoomBubba

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27. I support Perez and hope he gets it ...

Reply to La Lioness Priyanka (Original post)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 02:43 PM

Dec 2016

... don't see Ellison being anything aside from a distraction as every time he is mentioned, Democrats will have to defend his past support of Louis Farrakhan and alleged anti-Semitism. I'd rather have Democrats focused on winning instead of trying to continually shift the focus from Ellison.

Don't feel like dealing with it. If Ellison is selected, we're just going to have to settle with losing big in 2018.

Now I'm sure some people will say "it's not right to give into fear" or "appease" right-wingers, but we're thinking about what is good for the party. If we choose Ellison, we're going from a clean slate to giving the Republicans an even bigger gun to blow Democrats away with, especially in places where the state parties are dying. I don't know why no one else is concerned about this. It's like Democrats are only interested in patting themselves on the back and being righteous losers.

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It is very rich to have the same people who were complaining that HRC had too much support [View all] La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 OP

Excellent point! mcar Dec 2016 #1

i have my moments :) La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #5

I agree in principle...nt Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #2

Funny how that works isn't it? Maven Dec 2016 #3

Spot on. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #4

Strolled over to Tom's twitter account... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #6

i got stalked by a bernie supporter and had to change my phone number this election cycle La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #7

And HRC coulda/shoulda... BBG Dec 2016 #9

What exact bias should she have fought against? La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #10

Simple Contrast in Non-Action BBG Dec 2016 #43

I just now saw this post - I know, in my heart, you are a good person. closeupready Dec 2016 #21

I've thought the same of you too. Nt La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #25

... closeupready Dec 2016 #26

This is no longer the Democratic Party WhiteTara Dec 2016 #33

That's what the BoBers wish. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #44

Bingo Hekate Dec 2016 #8

So, we'd prefer holding the DNC chair job hostage until the brats get what they want? hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #11

We should allow people to run. Not sure what this La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #12

Check out some comments in the various "Bernie hurt Hillary" threads. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #15

the bernie or bust movement was bratty as fuck. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #24

It's the definition of BoBers. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #38

Democrats put too much into the Sanders "movement" ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #28

Agree LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #13

Me too. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #34

Perez is Hispanic La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #42

Great that will help on one hand WhiteTara Dec 2016 #45

We'll never win them so I'm not sure catering to them La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #46

I mean he will be able to walk down the street WhiteTara Dec 2016 #47

Yeesh La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #48

Sickening, isn't it. WhiteTara Dec 2016 #49

Hugs to you. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #50

Thanks WhiteTara Dec 2016 #53

I'm very happy with Perez, and he doesn't have the obvious "baggage"* that will be thrown... George II Dec 2016 #14

I like Keith Ellison NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #16

Hypocrisy is alive and well brer cat Dec 2016 #17

I tentatively support Ellison, but by all means there should be a vigorously contested race geek tragedy Dec 2016 #18

In the film "Sunset Boulevard", drama queen Norma Desmond (played by Gloria Swanson) closeupready Dec 2016 #19

Actually, what people are saying is, "NOW can we try this?". Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #20

if enough people want him, he'll win. if not, perez or third person will win. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #29

Actually, they're saying "it's his turn..." LanternWaste Dec 2016 #35

I'm with you. BlueMTexpat Dec 2016 #22

This sentiment works with other configurations too. LiberalLovinLug Dec 2016 #23

I support Perez and hope he gets it ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #27

Also, there's this that Republicans can hammer him on: ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #32

One imagines the corollary is just as valid... winning means nothing if you're not just. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #37

We cannot act on convictions ... ZoomBubba Dec 2016 #40

I have met and like Keith Ellison but I do not support his bid for DNC chair Gothmog Dec 2016 #30

Perhaps the Party should think out of the box on this one? kentuck Dec 2016 #31

Not the worst idea. Institutions and individuals are very resistant to shared power Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #41

Very interesting idea! Certainly enough work to do for co-chairs. LonePirate Dec 2016 #52

just from my little aa community perspective okieinpain Dec 2016 #36

i like ellison but i would prefer he have some competition. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #39

just saying. it's out there and a big risk for dnc. n/t. okieinpain Dec 2016 #54

But part of the reason I'm leaning Perez La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #55

Perez was not part of St. Bernie's circle hence the opposition to hm joining the race. LonePirate Dec 2016 #51

Most of the opposition to Ellison comes from his being a Muslim. baldguy Dec 2016 #56

some people are worried about the ADL La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #57