2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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48. Why is it so hard to accept that it was about the issues?

Reply to Gothmog (Reply #31)

Thu Dec 15, 2016, 03:16 PM

Dec 2016

Bernie's never been about ego...if he was, he'd wear expensive clothes and get expensive haircuts.

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I really don't understand the boomlet for Tom Perez as DNC head. [View all] geek tragedy Dec 2016 OP

maybe he's just an obama legacy protection device? nt msongs Dec 2016 #1

we already have one of those. It's called geek tragedy Dec 2016 #4

Frankly, im thankful for a classicly bitter anti-obama post from msongs. It dionysus Dec 2016 #80

Do the others have that experience? mcar Dec 2016 #2

Ellison served in the MN state legislature before wininng the primary and general election geek tragedy Dec 2016 #6

He won a Congressional district mcar Dec 2016 #8

We're way past needing a 50 state strategy FogerRox Dec 2016 #69

He has already stated that he will give up his House seat The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2016 #76

Ellison has a lot of grassroots experience HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #3

So who do you want for the DNC head? rogue emissary Dec 2016 #5

leaning towards Ellison of the announced candidates, but wouldn't be displeased geek tragedy Dec 2016 #7

Most of the announced candidates don't have much experience leading a organization. rogue emissary Dec 2016 #14

I would rather have someone I've never heard of Yupster Dec 2016 #15

That's quite logical. :) rogue emissary Dec 2016 #18

Yepster!!!! NCTraveler Dec 2016 #63

He isn't a politician who endorsed Bernie Sanders in the primary? aidbo Dec 2016 #9

The reason I like him is the same reason I liked Dean hollowdweller Dec 2016 #10

That's the problem right there. Ligyron Dec 2016 #26

It's Simple Me. Dec 2016 #11

I have met and like Keith Ellison but I do not support his bid for DNC chair Gothmog Dec 2016 #12

So...NO Sanders supporter should have any significant role in this party? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #20

Your analysis is wrong yet again Gothmog Dec 2016 #31

Why is it so hard to accept that it was about the issues? Ken Burch Dec 2016 #48

There are many different ways each of appease our egos La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #49

I'll concede the point as a general human concept. Ken Burch Dec 2016 #54

Honestly I don't care why he ran. I just wish he had quit La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #55

You are so very wrong Gothmog Dec 2016 #67

They've become a cartoon by now. For hillary losing, anything that bernie touched must be shunned. dionysus Dec 2016 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #24

Thank you. Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #52

You think running a large Dept like Labor isn't big enough? Dean ran a small state and was a GREAT blm Dec 2016 #13

Plenty clearly want to limit Bernie's influence; Perez is not Ellison, so they love him. hellofromreddit Dec 2016 #16

The anti-Bernie crowd doesn't like Ellison because he has Bernie's support. Ace Rothstein Dec 2016 #17

Sanders supporters only want Ellison cause -BERNIE- KittyWampus Dec 2016 #46

Howard Dean is Tainted By Lobbying firerises Dec 2016 #70

tainted by lobbying. LOL! Sanders is tainted by not releasing his taxes. Ellison is tainted KittyWampus Dec 2016 #71

One of these things is not like the others... firerises Dec 2016 #72

Making excuses for the tax records is not helping anyone but Trump.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #74

There isn't a single person in this country that isn't "tainted" by one thing or another. George II Dec 2016 #78

First of all, before you respond to my post please remember that your next post will be #1000. StevieM Dec 2016 #50

Perez sees an opening and he's going for it. There's a big power vacuum right now. NWCorona Dec 2016 #19

DNC heads must raise plenty of money for the Party. Re: Citizens United oasis Dec 2016 #21

The government department that he runs has over 17,000 employees... SaschaHM Dec 2016 #22

Thank you, Sascha, for some facts on Sec of Labor, Tom Perez.. and he's Bi-Lingual! Cha Dec 2016 #58

Are we allowed to like both of them? LOL Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #23

I really like them both too. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #33

We need someone who can spur the party's enthusiasm again. I don't see it in this person. Vinca Dec 2016 #25

I like him Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #27

I like him too, but just not sure if he knows anything about elections geek tragedy Dec 2016 #32

Aloha, Nonhlanhla.. And, he's bi-lingual.. I think importante.. Cha Dec 2016 #61

Slightly OT Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #28

It's my understanding he removed himself from consideration. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #30

I didn't hear about that Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #37

Not sure who I am going to support either. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #38

Thanks. I missed that. Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #39

K&R NCTraveler Dec 2016 #29

Looks like they're trying to dump Ellison Renew Deal Dec 2016 #34

so his main deal is that he's a very progressive Obama establishment guy? geek tragedy Dec 2016 #35

I agree Renew Deal Dec 2016 #36

He was labor secretary and has strong ties to organized labor La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #40

I love him as a cabinet secretary. But virtually zero electoral experience. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #41

i am not sure the role needs electoral experience La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #42

Those traits are necessary but not sufficient. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #47

to me those are the sufficient qualifications, actually running for office isn't La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #56

Plus, Tom Perez, was deciding between the DNC chair or running Cha Dec 2016 #60

he's never worked on campaigns either. geek tragedy Dec 2016 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #65

The party's most pressing problem is not WWC voters mcar Dec 2016 #68

I agree LeftInTX Dec 2016 #44

AND.. he's bi-lingual.. Cha Dec 2016 #59

The media will never let go of ADL/anti-semite meme DeminPennswoods Dec 2016 #43

Anyone would be better than the disgusting anti-Semitism associated with Ellison. tritsofme Dec 2016 #45

Has Ellison himself said or done anything anti-Semitic? KamaAina Dec 2016 #51

Because one time Keith Ellison deviated from the bipartisan orthodoxy guillaumeb Dec 2016 #53

Because if we had Ellison leading the DNC.. aidbo Dec 2016 #57

I just read Ellisons bio. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #62

Here is why I like Tom Perez Gothmog Dec 2016 #66

That's an excellent reason for supporting Perez.... and not having another job is crucia bettyellen Dec 2016 #75

He is liked by all Democratic constiuencies...I like Keith but he will become the story...if Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #73

Now let me see, many Democrats have espoused the idea that we need someone..... George II Dec 2016 #77

Right now between him and Ellison I prefer the latter geek tragedy Dec 2016 #79