2016 Postmortem

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20. GOTV is about mustering people who might actually vote for you

Reply to BeyondGeography (Original post)

Fri Dec 16, 2016, 11:15 PM

Dec 2016

demonstrated by past voting patterns and data. This demo of hateful white supremacist shitcocks only show up for candidates who promise pain to groups they hate.

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Why Hillary Clinton Bombed With White Evangelical Voters [View all] BeyondGeography Dec 2016 OP

she was more religious than any of the dem nominees since jimmy carter JI7 Dec 2016 #1

Things that Christ might actually do. nycbos Dec 2016 #2

this election showed a large segment of white evangelicals are actually JI7 Dec 2016 #5

Many of them are misogynists too (even the women). Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #6

Yes, exactly. hamsterjill Dec 2016 #39

What were they in 2008 and 2012 when they voted for president obama? yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #52

most of them didn't vote for Obama JI7 Dec 2016 #53

A lot did. Many in 200 districts did anyway yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #55

most didn't JI7 Dec 2016 #56

that's what they really are treestar Dec 2016 #54

How does that get in the way of filling out a questionnaire? BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #3

i thought these people were about jesus. And many of them don't think women should work JI7 Dec 2016 #4

They've been pissed at her since she said TexasBushwhacker Dec 2016 #8

That's an excuse EffieBlack Dec 2016 #47

First--they never would have voted for her as she was for reproductive rights, period. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #44

So, totally ignore a huge voting bloc? Even a c token appearance to dionysus Dec 2016 #64

+1000 baldguy Dec 2016 #37

You are so right there! lol! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #43

As far as impressing church-goers, Clinton did it all. Orsino Dec 2016 #61

Trump leads a christian life for evangelicals? dubyadiprecession Dec 2016 #7

And he outperformed Romney anyway BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #9

Don't bet on it. dubyadiprecession Dec 2016 #11

Don't bet on it. LenaBaby61 Dec 2016 #19

Romney bring mormon was probably worse to them JI7 Dec 2016 #12

Romney posted the same numbers as GWB in 2004 BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #14

Might make a good case standingtall Dec 2016 #17

Maybe a big part of the reason standingtall Dec 2016 #18

I don't blame her for not showing up. Why chase votes of people who typically don't vote for your coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #10

It's about losing a big chunk of voters 75-25 instead of 80-20 BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #13

I still say there are better opportunities else where. coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #22

Certainly BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #23

That's one way of looking at it but I saw 2016 as a base election that we didn't win because coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #24

The numbers simply don't back that statement up BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #26

I don't trust any numbers at this point the numbers said she was going to win too. coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #27

that same statement is true of many other subgroups JustinL Dec 2016 #32

The obvious difference being BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #36

People seem to go back to Clinton would have won if she replicated Obama HoneyBadger Dec 2016 #40

THANK you! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #48

Trump went after Democrats in the rust belt and got them Quixote1818 Dec 2016 #50

screw this triron Dec 2016 #15

How about we just run Ted Cruz next time? BainsBane Dec 2016 #16

exactly coolbreeze77 Dec 2016 #25

Ted Cruz lost the evangelicals to Trump which is more evidence they are voting on bigotry JI7 Dec 2016 #33

Bingo! EffieBlack Dec 2016 #49

GOTV is about mustering people who might actually vote for you Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #20

I honestly don't think standingtall Dec 2016 #21

Because they're fucking hypocrites lame54 Dec 2016 #28

Good lord radical noodle Dec 2016 #29

We wrote them off. HassleCat Dec 2016 #30

deplorable hypocrites aren't worth the time. nt oasis Dec 2016 #31

I wonder just how many votes Hillary lost when she labled half of Trump supporters as ... spin Dec 2016 #35

Hillary's "Deplorables" comment was, of course, blown out of proportion. oasis Dec 2016 #41

My simple answer is because Hillary is a woman...many Evangelicals think women... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #34

Yep, being a woman disqualifies her for these people... Zing Zing Zingbah Dec 2016 #45

yep, that's an interesting hypothesis. Would bet they overlook their values and go with the man... iluvtennis Dec 2016 #46

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #60

So they voted for a thrice-married sexual predator instead. BlueStater Dec 2016 #38

Yep, they did ...pathetic n/t iluvtennis Dec 2016 #62

I know it's a hugely unopopular view here, but I agree. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #42

Fuck them Emilybemily Dec 2016 #51

How Hillary Clinton Lost The Election. She Ignored the Homophobes! kcr Dec 2016 #57

They don't like uppity Methodists? Actually this unpopular woman won the popular vote.... Hekate Dec 2016 #58

She's been 'bombing' with white evangelicals for a long, long time. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #59

Because she didn't pander to their bigotry...nt SidDithers Dec 2016 #63

Turns out white evangelicals ...... Justice Dec 2016 #65