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2016 Postmortem

cali

(114,904 posts) Sat Sep 19, 2015, 04:05 PM Sep 2015

the backrooms are a lot less smoky and there's now a facade, but they're still there [View all]

and they're still inhabited by the same types. Wasserman-Schultz serves quite well for exhibit A.

Yes, there are still party bosses and they still control things.

Just one more way in which our so-called democracy is compromised.

It's an insiders game. And we, the voting public, are more or less, the pawns on the board.

It would be naive or ignorant to think the process was ever untainted, but one thing has always been true: It's an insiders game.

And if the party insiders who control the party machines, oppose someone, that person will not be the nominee. That goes for Trump as well as Bernie.

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the backrooms are a lot less smoky and there's now a facade, but they're still there [View all] cali Sep 2015 OP

dead on, cali restorefreedom Sep 2015 #1

This may be true. It won't affect my vote, though. TwilightGardener Sep 2015 #2

I'm sorry, but how could anyone watch what is happening in both parties Hortensis Sep 2015 #3

Just wait... the Empire *will* strike back. reformist2 Sep 2015 #4

hard to take the ludicrous claim that Hillary is not a party insider, seriously cali Sep 2015 #6

More than ludicrous - the statement is part of the Big Lie. truedelphi Sep 2015 #35

I'm sorry, but you need to read more carefully. seriously cali Sep 2015 #5

Cali: Carter for Democrats. Romney for GOP. Hortensis Sep 2015 #9

The Party is doing it with not only media & debates, but also Superdelegates. Popular vote will be RiverLover Sep 2015 #28

Exactly. The DNC/backroom does not choose the nominee, only massages what Hortensis Sep 2015 #32

Um...there was probably nobody in the 20th C. who was more of a party insider than LBJ. Chan790 Sep 2015 #31

Senate insider. Not the DC in-crowd. Johnson's actually my Hortensis Sep 2015 #33

Yep, sensible people who are willing to work within the system. zeemike Sep 2015 #7

There's always a few from organized labor Gman Sep 2015 #8

and yet Roy Ellefson Sep 2015 #23

And Nader Gman Sep 2015 #25

But not the two hundred thousand registered Florida Democrats who voted for Bush. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #26

The event of 2000 are why they can't be considered Gman Sep 2015 #29

We didn't make 200,000 Florida Democrats vote republican Scootaloo Sep 2015 #34

You don't see it Gman Sep 2015 #36

...Because we don't act like republicans? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #37

Too true, cali. It's a fixed game... trof Sep 2015 #10

The pawns are upsetting that gameboard, this time around Demeter Sep 2015 #11

DURec. bvar22 Sep 2015 #12

/\_/\_This_/\_/\ Scuba Sep 2015 #24

Thank you. RiverLover Sep 2015 #30

And yet Flying Squirrel Sep 2015 #13

It's an uphill fight for sure, but on the positive side if the pawns can make it to the other side Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #14

Given the influence of moneyed interests... Garrett78 Sep 2015 #15

You give up too easy and your link makes a valid scenario for Bernie, while also omitting Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #16

I haven't given up on anything. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #17

You misinterpret Bernie's statement that we need to create a grass roots movement Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #18

Of course he won't outright say he can't win. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #19

Then you will be voting against him. You see the early primary/caucus schedule of states Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #20

Most people don't follow politics very closely. Garrett78 Sep 2015 #21

So then if Bernie makes it to your state, you will be voting for him? Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #22

I tried to point out back in 2012 truedelphi Sep 2015 #27