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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
5. I think gun profits are actually a large part of the problem.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:39 AM
Feb 2016

The new pro-gun rhetoric of the past few years:

1. There are "Second Amendment remedies" to political issues

2. Conservatives should walk around visibly armed and not be questioned about it

3. The Government -- when a Democrat is President -- is plotting to disarm everyone so they can put political enemies in camps

4. Mass killings are faked to make it falsely appear there is a gun homicide problem when really there isn't

5. People have not just a right, but some kind of patriotic duty, to be armed everywhere, all the time,

6. Because at some point there will be a nationwide conservative uprising (what the Malheur yahoos tried to start) resolved by armed conflict against the "Feds."

These things are all bullshit, designed to sell increasing numbers of guns to decreasing numbers of people. And the focus is not on hunting tools or even basic self-defense weaponry, but on pseudo-military gear centered around a fantasy of personal political power derived from being prepared to wage outright war.

And it's working, for the gun manufacturers. Every time there is a mass killing, there is an upsurge in sales, on the theory there might be legislation forthcoming to limit firearms. Every time there is actual talk about legislation, arms sales skyrocket. There are periodic panics about ammunition being banned, further increasing sales.

All of this bizarre mythology runs through the screaming rhetoric and iron-fisted political influence of the NRA. All of it is funded with gun manufacturer money. A co-worker handed me a copy of the NRA's monthly magazine a while back. It was 90% military-style tactical gear, seasoned with a positively looney editorial rant about how Obama was plotting to ... wait for it ... TAKE ALL THE GUNS!

We do need a less anxious society, better mental health care, and so forth.

But I think we also need to look at the source of the ceaseless insanity convincing people that firearms are some kind of magical totem that provides the only real source of personal power available to them to protect them against largely imaginary fears.

If we can make bloodshed less profitable, I think a lot of the rhetoric egging it on will go quiet.

Aren't all firearms killing machines? But these firearms are particularly disgusting. nt valerief Feb 2016 #1
Agree with you on both counts. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #3
I agree. They shouldn't be legal to sell. nt valerief Feb 2016 #4
People sue manufacturers over legal products all the time. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #18
nothing negligent about the design of a an AR15 tk2kewl Feb 2016 #19
Why are you posting in this group if you think AR-15s are "perfect"? SunSeeker Feb 2016 #20
wrong... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #21
You are not defending logic. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #23
a link to another comment of mine on guns... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #24
I see. Seems you are making these ridiculous arguments to defend Bernie's vote for the PLCAA. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #25
whatever tk2kewl Feb 2016 #27
It is negligent to design & market a mass killing military weapon to civilians. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #22
But handguns kill many many more people GoldenEagle16 Feb 2016 #9
It's arms manufacturers buying our Congress. nt valerief Feb 2016 #11
Handguns aren't industrial-strength killing machines. lastlib Feb 2016 #14
They were at Virginia Tech - 32 dead GoldenEagle16 Feb 2016 #15
Sadly The Problem Is A Society That Drives Citizens Over The Edge - Banning Guns Will Not Ameliorate cantbeserious Feb 2016 #2
I think gun profits are actually a large part of the problem. DirkGently Feb 2016 #5
Based on.....? jeff47 Feb 2016 #6
The negligence is designing a mass killing weapon marketed to the unstable. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #7
And that doesn't meet the legal standard for negligence. jeff47 Feb 2016 #8
A jury should decide whether it meets the standard. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #10
Decisions about the law are made by the judge, not the jury. jeff47 Feb 2016 #12
Calling gun victims' suits "SLAPP suits" is a bullshit NRA talking point. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #13
Not when the people pushing this are using the very definition of SLAPP lawsuits. jeff47 Feb 2016 #16
That is not the "definition of SLAPP suit." Stop with the NRA talking points. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #17
That is absurd yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #26
+1. People have very strange ideas about COLGATE4 Feb 2016 #28
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