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Gun Control Reform Activism

jeff47

(26,549 posts)

12. Decisions about the law are made by the judge, not the jury.

Reply to SunSeeker (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:34 PM

Feb 2016

Once again, SLAPP lawsuits throw a large financial burden on families that are already suffering, and will not put all gun manufacturers on the planet out of business.

Why would Kalashnikov care about a US lawsuit? Putin gonna go collect for us?

But if the families' attorneys think they can find a creative way around the PLCAA, and the families want to try, then who are you to tell them they shouldn't?

It's not the PLCAA. It's far more basic: you have to show negligence by the manufacturer, and they are not liable for illegal acts done with their guns. Just like Ford is not liable for drunk drivers, even though Ford could install a Breathalyzer in every Ford car.

These cases will gain fame for some lawyers, and gain large bills for the victims. They are not a good idea.

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They’re killing machines: Newtown families have a right to sue the makers of the AR-15 [View all] n2doc Feb 2016 OP

Aren't all firearms killing machines? But these firearms are particularly disgusting. nt valerief Feb 2016 #1

Agree with you on both counts. tk2kewl Feb 2016 #3

I agree. They shouldn't be legal to sell. nt valerief Feb 2016 #4

People sue manufacturers over legal products all the time. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #18

nothing negligent about the design of a an AR15 tk2kewl Feb 2016 #19

Why are you posting in this group if you think AR-15s are "perfect"? SunSeeker Feb 2016 #20

wrong... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #21

You are not defending logic. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #23

a link to another comment of mine on guns... tk2kewl Feb 2016 #24

I see. Seems you are making these ridiculous arguments to defend Bernie's vote for the PLCAA. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #25

whatever tk2kewl Feb 2016 #27

It is negligent to design & market a mass killing military weapon to civilians. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #22

But handguns kill many many more people GoldenEagle16 Feb 2016 #9

It's arms manufacturers buying our Congress. nt valerief Feb 2016 #11

Handguns aren't industrial-strength killing machines. lastlib Feb 2016 #14

They were at Virginia Tech - 32 dead GoldenEagle16 Feb 2016 #15

Sadly The Problem Is A Society That Drives Citizens Over The Edge - Banning Guns Will Not Ameliorate cantbeserious Feb 2016 #2

I think gun profits are actually a large part of the problem. DirkGently Feb 2016 #5

Based on.....? jeff47 Feb 2016 #6

The negligence is designing a mass killing weapon marketed to the unstable. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #7

And that doesn't meet the legal standard for negligence. jeff47 Feb 2016 #8

A jury should decide whether it meets the standard. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #10

Decisions about the law are made by the judge, not the jury. jeff47 Feb 2016 #12

Calling gun victims' suits "SLAPP suits" is a bullshit NRA talking point. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #13

Not when the people pushing this are using the very definition of SLAPP lawsuits. jeff47 Feb 2016 #16

That is not the "definition of SLAPP suit." Stop with the NRA talking points. SunSeeker Feb 2016 #17

That is absurd yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #26

+1. People have very strange ideas about COLGATE4 Feb 2016 #28