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gejohnston

(17,502 posts)
6. The real answer to your questions is simply out of sight out of mind.
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 10:11 AM
Mar 2013

because there is no real evidence that the suicide rate would go down. While there have been studies attempted to show that, they don't seem to be accepted by serious researchers. Out of the studies done comparing before and after stricter laws the studies showed that while gun suicides did drop, the suicide rate did not. Also, rural areas have higher suicide rates than urban areas. While saying it is "because there are more guns in rural areas" might be true if the problem was limited to US, Canada, parts of Europe, New Zealand, and even Australia. The problem is, the problem is just as true in Japan, South Korea, and other countries where legal gun ownership is almost nonexistent even in rural areas.

Mass shootings make the news because they are rare. The victims also tend to be whiter and more affluent, all the more reason for the media to care more.

But I digress.

Geez could there be MORE gun deaths in Chicago and DC were it not for these gun laws? dkf Mar 2013 #1
Gang-related shootings are a tiny fraction of homicides. Robb Mar 2013 #2
Since most gun deaths are suicides it is curious this is not the main rationale for gun control. dkf Mar 2013 #4
The real answer to your questions is simply out of sight out of mind. gejohnston Mar 2013 #6
FYI: AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service aikoaiko Mar 2013 #7
LOL. Looks like the NRA talking points have found their way into this forum. DanTex Mar 2013 #8
Hemenway isn't taken that seriously gejohnston Mar 2013 #9
Not taken seriously by who? He's a Harvard professor with an extensive publication record. DanTex Mar 2013 #10
I didn't say researchers thought any such thing gejohnston Mar 2013 #11
In other words, you can't name a single researcher who agrees with you. DanTex Mar 2013 #12
I said none have found, AFAIK gejohnston Mar 2013 #14
Umm, you said "they don't seem to be accepted by serious researchers" (post 6) DanTex Mar 2013 #16
I also used the qualifier "seemed" gejohnston Mar 2013 #17
You need to look up the word "mostly". DanTex Mar 2013 #18
he is the most cited on your list gejohnston Mar 2013 #19
Do you ever say anything true? "DA Brent" is first author on 9 of the studies. DanTex Mar 2013 #20
your point? gejohnston Mar 2013 #21
you oppose gun control, why are you here? CreekDog Apr 2013 #23
Yes. Maybe even as much as New Orleans or St Louis. DanTex Mar 2013 #5
There are Illinois' state laws and statewide is lower than Indiana CreekDog Apr 2013 #24
Marking this for a later read. progressoid Mar 2013 #3
CDC puts US suicides by gun at approx. 20,000 in 2010 Progressive dog Mar 2013 #13
Going the root causes of the desire to commit suicide would help, too. There was a paragraph at the freshwest Mar 2013 #15
kick nt Electric Monk Apr 2013 #22
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