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el_bryanto

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26. There was a good article at Salon this last weekend about what religion provides
Sun May 10, 2015, 05:51 PM
May 2015

And how many Anti Theists refuse to grapple with it. Here's the article.

The problem is that the New Atheists think of God only in epistemological terms. Consequently, they have nothing to say to those who affirm God for existential reasons. New Atheist writers tend to approach religion from the perspective of science: They argue that a particular religion isn’t true or that the empirical claims of religious texts are false. That’s easy to do. The more interesting question is why religions endure in spite of being empirically untrue. There are, of course, millions of fundamentalists for whom God is a literal proposition. Their claims concerning God are empirical and should be treated as such. For many, though, God is an existential impulse, a transcendent idea with no referent in reality. This conception of God is untouched – and untouchable – by positivist science; asking if God is true in this sense is like asking how much the number 12 weighs – it’s nonsensical.

These sorts of questions pervade literature and philosophy. The existentialist authors, most of whom were atheists, took seriously the problem of meaning and truth. Dostoevsky, for instance, although a Christian, refused to defend Christianity on positivist grounds. He considered God a motive force, not an empirical claim about reality or history. For his part, God was a bridge to self-transcendence, a way of linking the individual to a tradition and a community. The truth of Christ was therefore less important than the living faith made possible by belief in Christ.

Richard Dawkins may find this distinction trivial, but I don’t think it is.


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Violence is wrong and the attack on them is wrong. hrmjustin May 2015 #1
Oh, I'm not saying that violent reactions are acceptable. kentauros May 2015 #2
Yes you can say it is a part of their identity. hrmjustin May 2015 #3
I agree with that about some people. kentauros May 2015 #4
It is a good op. hrmjustin May 2015 #5
Not only people of faith, but all who do criticize their mocking Starboard Tack May 2015 #8
Lol. well i find most atheists to be live and let live but there are a few that are rather dogmatic hrmjustin May 2015 #9
Very healthy attitude. Starboard Tack May 2015 #10
It is only recent. hrmjustin May 2015 #12
I think this is right on. okasha May 2015 #11
I honestly don't think there is anyway to make this argument fly el_bryanto May 2015 #6
Okay, finally have a clear enough mind kentauros May 2015 #7
There was a good article at Salon this last weekend about what religion provides el_bryanto May 2015 #26
I saw cbayer's thread in Religion on this Salon article. kentauros May 2015 #27
Beliefs are inanimate. It's like mocking a stone. rug May 2015 #13
Agreed! I think some of them realize they hurt people with their mocking and just don't care hrmjustin May 2015 #14
The realize it before they open their mouths. That's the intent. rug May 2015 #15
I can take a good natured joke or two but I must admit irl i never experience hrmjustin May 2015 #16
The thing is, they lose the power to hurt okasha May 2015 #17
Well put. Something is missing in their lives so they need to inflict it on us. hrmjustin May 2015 #18
The internet lets them do it anonymously, too, okasha May 2015 #19
Keyboard warriors. hrmjustin May 2015 #20
There was a truly ridiculous post yesterday okasha May 2015 #21
I have no problem with good questions that make you think. hrmjustin May 2015 #22
It does happen, but not often. okasha May 2015 #23
It is what it is. hrmjustin May 2015 #24
kicking. hrmjustin May 2015 #25
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