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[brucefan]

1. Oh NO!

I hope you reconsider

[Mc Mike]

2. This will be a loss for this site. I'm sorry, n2.

Thanks for all the years of posts and the great toons.

[Mike Nelson]

3. Well...

...I don't support her, either. I wish no Dems would vote for her... but, if I had to vote for Manchin or the Republican, I'd vote for Manchin.

Wish you well, too.

[shanny]

4. I hear you, and understand completely.

Fair winds and following seas.

[Sherman A1]

5. I understand

And even after taking a nine month break am very close to the line of thinking you present in this post. Good luck and I suspect I will likely see your posts elsewhere.

[Funtatlaguy]

6. Politics sometimes gives us only terrible choices

Of a horrendous person vs a really horrendous person.
I can’t stand Manchin either.
But, it’s a numbers game and the Dems need his number.

[hlthe2b]

7. I hate to lose long term DUers especially.. It seems your discontent is more generalized

(as is mine) at what is happening. I know some juries are taking this "don't criticize Democrats" as a literal edict. Perhaps, you could request admins clarify what they mean by that because posts I have seen from Skinner in admin's forum seem to suggest that degree of absolutism was not his intent.

I hope you reconsider.

[Vinca]

8. Please stay. What you contribute is important.

Manchin is a fucking Republican masquerading as a Democrat and I'll never defend him. The whole notion of unquestionable support is foolish. Consider that we're in weird, weird times and Haspel is a symptom of it. There are dangerous people and crackpot people in every other department in Trump's government, so the CIA will be no different. You have to consider that she's been there through an entire Democratic administration and no one said a peep. Even though she was one of the rank and file, it seems a bit odd to suddenly learn she's a monster. The monster has always been there. You'll be needed for the clean-up job, so please don't go.

[NCTraveler]

9. Sorry to see you go.

I can and do criticize Democrats here on an almost daily basis.

You just did and it isn’t being hidden.

Of course if that is the only thing you can think about or post about, then this isn’t the place for you. That’s hard to imagine considering all of the great things happening in the party.

So you are leaving because you can’t criticize Manchin, yet you just did so and it is standing.

There must be more to it than this. No democrat is off limits for my criticism here. Not a one. It simply has to be grounded in fact with a concern for policy.

I’m guessing post #8 won’t be hidden either. Furthering my point that your reasoning is faulty.

I have even criticized HRC here in the last two weeks. No one took issue with it because it was well grounded and worded in a manner that wasn’t bullshit or designed to start crap. Simply fact based criticism.

[karynnj]

10. I'll miss you

I think you might be misinterpreting the TOS. They are not to support every action of any Democrat. Here, unless you support Manchin's Republican opponent, you are not breaking the rules.

[GreenPartyVoter]

11. I understand. I've become more of a lurker over the years myself. I have

always appreciated your toon wrangling efforts, and will miss seeing you here.

[Ferrets are Cool]

12. Sorry to see you go, but I understand. nt

[malaise]

13. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

That said you raise valid points.

[barbtries]

14. sad to hear this.

and i agree with your position. not all d's are d's. they must be held to account

[Uncle Joe]

15. Peace to you n2doc

[Glorfindel]

16. I'm so sorry, n2doc.

Your toons have been my favorite things on DU. May the road rise up to meet you, and may the wind be always at your back.

[emulatorloo]

17. Any Dem who votes to confirm her will be rightly criticized here at DU

Constructive criticism of Democrats is welcomed here at DU.

Name-calling and inflammatory hatchet jobs aren’t.

Rules are pretty clear.

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Don't bash Democratic public figures

Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders).

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I am pretty sure anything you would post about Manchin’s support of Gina Haspel would be substantive criticism.


At any rate sorry you have decided to leave, but understand. Take good care of yourself!