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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Giuliani "foreshadowing" some big story?
On CNN this morning, they were discussing this very subject.
Rudy was all bug-eyed and panicky-looking as he explained how he never said there was "no collusion". He just said that there was no collusion with Donald Trump.
They wondered if this was "foreshadowing" a larger story about to drop?
Of course, the Full Blood Wolf Moon is almost upon us. It should be here before Saturday evening.
greymattermom
(5,797 posts)I'm sure he told Donald Jr and the rest of them to do what they need to do and don't tell him directly about it. Wink Wink.
UpInArms
(51,963 posts)I had nothing to do with payments
It was Cohen
Well, maybe I knew
So, it was a private transaction
.....
Nothing to see here, move along
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)although I missed it directly, my guess is that he's trying to get out in front of possibly more being found out about Manafort's actions and how they would tied in directly to the campaign.
Personally, I think it's Rudy trying to say that Donald Trump was not the Trump Campaign.
(and I'll add I think he's serious, so I'm not going to put a sarcasm smilie up)
csziggy
(34,189 posts)Long after the campaign was over Manafort was hooking people up with Trump and/or his cohorts in the White House.
It all comes back to, "It's not the crime, it's the cover-up." And the cover-up in this case is still continuing, the same way that Nixon's cover-up of Watergate continued pretty much right up until the day he resigned.
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)YessirAtsaFact
(2,112 posts)In that he was very close to the original crime of conspiracy, if not directly involved in it.
Nixon wasnt that closely involved in the actual Watergate break-in.
The only way Trump is better off than Nixon is that the right wing lying machine didnt exist in the 70s.
I suspect that there is so much evidence that Fox et al wont be able to save Trump. They will drag out the process but there is too much hard evidence of wrongdoing with cell phone records, emails, etc. These people left trails that a blind man could follow.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)Nixon probably didn't know about the Watergate break-in ahead of time and maybe didn't know about it until they had to start paying off the burglars. Nixon WAS complicit in the cover-up and that is what brought him down.
Trump was involved with the Russian conspiracy from Day 1. He has held too tight of control of his businesses to let me believe he did not have the same level of control of his campaign and administration. That is what is taking Mueller so long (even though his investigation is not as long as the one into Watergate was yet) - Mueller has to follow all the threads and they go back thirty years at least.
If the Republican Party had the integrity they did in the early 1970s, Dolt45 would be gone by now but the modern GOP does not even have that dubious level of integrity.
malaise
(280,038 posts)Yes! Yes! Yes!
Something big is coming up today or tomorrow - that's my guess
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)backed up by hard evidence AND witness testimony. Don jr, Kuschner all in the firing line with charges and indictments
The only play is say trump had no idea what was going on. LOL, a micromanager like trump not in the mix?
Roland99
(53,345 posts)jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)He moves the goalposts each time right before some even worse shit hits the fan...
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)...to face truth and justice, and to bring an end to the ACTS OF WAR that all our US Intelligence Agencies have reported are being launched against the USA by russia, the sleazy, evil-empire bed partner of the frigging republican turncoats.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)Shit coming down soon
meow2u3
(24,966 posts)He's also trying to whitewash Trump's betrayal of the country by constantly shifting the narrative because the facts don't fit the Trumpian fantasy.
csziggy
(34,189 posts)Too bad I am not a cartoonist or I would draw it!
YessirAtsaFact
(2,112 posts)And continuing what he was doing.
yellowcanine
(36,358 posts)In other words, normal for Rudy. So it doesn't mean much, if anything. Just sayin'.