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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo DU'ers do you believe that trump
is actually taking the hydroxyclhoroquinine (sp) or is he just bull shitting?
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So DU'ers do you believe that trump (Original Post)
gopiscrap
May 2020
OP
Believe it or not, I think he's dumb enough to actually take it, despite his doctor's ...
SWBTATTReg
May 2020
#1
He's lying. He's trying to save face while discrediting Dr. Bright.
The Velveteen Ocelot
May 2020
#2
SWBTATTReg
(24,337 posts)1. Believe it or not, I think he's dumb enough to actually take it, despite his doctor's ...
disapproval (if his doctor even knew about it to begin w/, which I doubt too)...
The Velveteen Ocelot
(121,486 posts)2. He's lying. He's trying to save face while discrediting Dr. Bright.
Of course, Trumps predilection for making false assertions is well documented. This announcement follows a predictable pattern for Trump of escalating a rhetorical point. Trump wants to disparage Bright, so he claims that hydroxychloroquine is safe and effective. To bolster that point, Trump points to unnamed doctors who he asserts have been prescribing the medication. Then, he escalates the point again: In fact, he himself is taking it, and hes doing just fine. How can you argue with that? Trump is healthy and covid-free, so how can anyone suggest that the drug is dangerous or ineffective? Sure, the argument is of the anti-tiger-rock variety, but you work with what youve got.
In the moment, its an expedient example to cite, and, who knows, perhaps an honest one. But one effect of the claim is almost certain: Trump supporters will view the drug as a harmless way to potentially prevent a dangerous illness. Many, presumably, might then seek it out and take it hopefully without negative side effects. The case of the couple in Arizona who took a fish-tank cleaning substance that was tangentially related to hydroxychloroquine may, in fact, have been a complicated murder plot. But if the president insists hes taking a potentially lifesaving medication without any problems, why wouldnt others try to do the same?
More broadly, this reinforces a central gap in Trumps approach to the pandemic. While formally embracing the suggestions of medical experts, he has consistently undermined their advice, from pushing for a rapid scaleback of efforts to contain the virus to ignoring the need to wear a mask in public. This is another example of Trump knowing better than the experts, a message that resonated with many of his supporters in 2016 but which is far riskier in the present conditions.
In other words, the best-case scenario to Trumps admission Monday is that he is, in fact, taking a risky medication with his doctors consent for which hes not seeing repercussions and which his supporters will not see as a green light for seeking it out themselves. The worst-case? Trump claimed to be taking the medication to make a point, inadvertently triggering a new embrace of the medication among those who take his words at face value putting lives at risk.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/05/18/trumps-stunning-claim-that-hes-taking-hydroxychloroquine-could-trigger-cascade-negative-effects/
In the moment, its an expedient example to cite, and, who knows, perhaps an honest one. But one effect of the claim is almost certain: Trump supporters will view the drug as a harmless way to potentially prevent a dangerous illness. Many, presumably, might then seek it out and take it hopefully without negative side effects. The case of the couple in Arizona who took a fish-tank cleaning substance that was tangentially related to hydroxychloroquine may, in fact, have been a complicated murder plot. But if the president insists hes taking a potentially lifesaving medication without any problems, why wouldnt others try to do the same?
More broadly, this reinforces a central gap in Trumps approach to the pandemic. While formally embracing the suggestions of medical experts, he has consistently undermined their advice, from pushing for a rapid scaleback of efforts to contain the virus to ignoring the need to wear a mask in public. This is another example of Trump knowing better than the experts, a message that resonated with many of his supporters in 2016 but which is far riskier in the present conditions.
In other words, the best-case scenario to Trumps admission Monday is that he is, in fact, taking a risky medication with his doctors consent for which hes not seeing repercussions and which his supporters will not see as a green light for seeking it out themselves. The worst-case? Trump claimed to be taking the medication to make a point, inadvertently triggering a new embrace of the medication among those who take his words at face value putting lives at risk.
The anti-tiger rock:
Laelth
(32,017 posts)3. He lies even when telling the truth would make him look better.
Most likely, hes lying again.
-Laelth
mobeau69
(11,662 posts)4. Question needs reworded.
Is he taking it? No.
Is he just bullshiting? Yes.
Skittles
(160,304 posts)5. no fucking way
dweller
(25,246 posts)6. who. fucking . cares ...
not me, just be gone by morning .
✌🏼
Stinky The Clown
(68,476 posts)7. If he is, I wish him one of the side effects.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,568 posts)8. you need the choice "wish he would, and chase it with chlorox"
Celerity
(46,866 posts)11. Lysol vape for an after dinner smoke
stillcool
(32,806 posts)9. he's taking something... nt
Elwood P Dowd
(11,444 posts)10. No, he's taking this stuff......
Maru Kitteh
(29,233 posts)12. I wish he was. I wish he was taking A LOT of it.
But no.
wendyb-NC
(3,889 posts)13. It was a medicine show, he gave.