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(87 posts)I wouldn't want to be on that jury.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)You do not get to make mistakes wielding deadly force.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,929 posts)I just dont see intent here. Ive made some bad mistakes in my life. Fortunately none of them killed or seiously harmed anyone.
I saw someone comparing this case to the Kyle Rittenhouse case the other day. At least at some point he intended to harm his VICTIMS. I dont believe he had any regret for what he did, but I believe she certainly does.
RobinA
(10,197 posts)I actually feel very sorry for her based on what we know. There was clearly no intent, it was an accident. And I am sympathetic to the notion that you can't be making mistakes in a gun situation. It was just a bad, bad situation. For the mistakenly killed guy as well as the accidental killer. I don't really think there is a correct verdict in this situation.
UnderThisLaw
(323 posts)cbabe
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2naSalit
(93,495 posts)She should have known so she was either a failure in her judgement and actions which should disqualify her from serving as LEO or she did it intentionally thinking yelling "tazer" would cover her. Either way, she killed someone without trial or legal due process while wearing a badge.
I have worn federal uniforms with badges and though I was not issued a firearm, not LEO, I still had many responsibilities that came with the badge that were not to be taken lightly.
I have no empathy fer her. She reminds me of that bimbo blonde going to jail because she thinks being white will absolve her from paying for her crimes.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,929 posts)Years.
After this happened I would never be able to trust myself that I might not make such a stupid mistake again. But before this happened she probably didnt believe she could fail in that way either.
2naSalit
(93,495 posts)How many people did she kill that were not videoed?
She was training others that day too. I don't buy that she was so suddenly clueless that she grabbed the gun instead of the tazer. If she was that easily shaken that she couldn't measure her response to the current action, she should never have been training let alone actually carrying a gun with a badge.
After 26 years of being a cop and she couldn't tell the difference between a Glock and a tazer?
If you can't be serious enough to recognize your responsibilities while wearing a badge, you should not be wearing one, period.
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2naSalit
(93,495 posts)Yelling tazer is alleged to have the same result.
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BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Last edited Mon Dec 20, 2021, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)
Strikes me as someone who just skated by for years, never sticking her neck out, waiting for the pension.
Her fellow officers are lucky she was never in a situation where they had to depend on her to save their lives.
Unfortunately, one civilian was not so lucky. She was incompetent, and her superiors have much to answer for too.
I actually had a tiny bit of sympathy for her at the beginning, but the trial persuaded me she deserves none.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,929 posts)Preferring to be be working out in the community.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I didnt know that.
But its probably easier to skate when youre in your own car.
marie999
(3,334 posts)PTWB
(4,131 posts)I haven't been following the case but saw the video. No intent to kill, very negligent actions, guilty of some lesser than murder but still serious charge.
Beachnutt
(8,178 posts)Sneederbunk
(15,392 posts)Vinca
(51,240 posts)She should be found guilty of something, but I don't think jail time is necessarily in order. Community service of some kind for an extended period might be a better penalty. I got the impression this woman had a whole lot on her plate at the time and had a trainee with her to boot. It's a horrible, horrible case and I hope the victim's family can find some comfort in knowing her intent wasn't to kill their loved one.
iemanja
(54,914 posts)and I think there is no question that she is guilty. The charge doesn't require intent.
ETA: There is a first degree manslaughter charge as well.
Sucha NastyWoman
(2,929 posts)I agree she is guilty of negligence, and since it resulted in a death, it follows that she is guilty of negligent homicide. That alone would be a huge punishment for me, to realize that I had committed negligent homicide.
So for me, the proper punishment woul depend on intent and remorse. Some dont think she is remorseful. I do.
iemanja
(54,914 posts)She killed a man. Community service is not appropriate.
2naSalit
(93,495 posts)The lessening of the punishment is why we have these problems in the first place, qualified immunity, it starts there.
Mr.Bill
(24,871 posts)she needs to spend some time in a medical facility where she can get some mental health care which I think she is in need of.
sinkingfeeling
(53,257 posts)Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)ismnotwasm
(42,478 posts)Performative testifying does not move me