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LonePirate

(13,919 posts)
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:03 PM Jan 2023

Who do you think will become the next Speaker of the House?


24 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
Kevin McCarthy
1 (4%)
Jim Jordan
0 (0%)
Steve Scalise
4 (17%)
Hakeem Jeffries
4 (17%)
Someone Else
15 (63%)
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Who do you think will become the next Speaker of the House? (Original Post) LonePirate Jan 2023 OP
The head of lettuce, maybe? canuckledragger Jan 2023 #1
George Santos would be perfect! Kablooie Jan 2023 #2
First Lady, Senator and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Trueblue1968 Jan 2023 #3
A rock. Like a pet rock from the 70's. Its name is Jerry. JanMichael Jan 2023 #4
McCarthy is the "name" lees1975 Jan 2023 #5
Dems will not vote a Repub Speaker unless it looks like one of the extremists will win. LonePirate Jan 2023 #7
This!!☝️ onetexan Jan 2023 #8
Scaramucci Kennah Jan 2023 #6
Flynn thinks he's big moniss Jan 2023 #9
Lmfao, 21% picked Jeffries! Polybius Jan 2023 #10
Jeffries winning is not as far-fetched as you think. LonePirate Jan 2023 #12
It's impossible Polybius Jan 2023 #15
One possibility that I think is unlikely is a replica of the old NY IDC Renew Deal Jan 2023 #17
Dems are not going to supply 212 votes without receiving something in return. LonePirate Jan 2023 #18
The best and only chance for a Democrat Speaker is Henry Cuellar Polybius Jan 2023 #20
The only republicans that would vote for Jeffries would be headed for retirement Renew Deal Jan 2023 #16
To early to tell. Fiendish Thingy Jan 2023 #11
Liz Cheney Jeebo Jan 2023 #13
No way. It will be some lower level white guy mnhtnbb Jan 2023 #14
I don't see every Democrat supporting Cheney onenote Jan 2023 #21
Mickey Mouse ZonkerHarris Jan 2023 #19
BREAKING: Wilted, limp, lettuce leaf elected Speaker of the House. LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2023 #22

Kablooie

(18,794 posts)
2. George Santos would be perfect!
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:16 PM
Jan 2023

He can say anything and you know it's not true.
A model Republican that everyone can admire.

lees1975

(6,103 posts)
5. McCarthy is the "name"
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:32 PM
Jan 2023

and he's always wanted it, but really he's not well liked by anyone in the GOP.

The victory in this for us will be that point when someone has to come to Democrats to get enough votes to win, which means they'll have to negotiate away all of the rabid MAGAT trash and agree to be legislators instead of agents of vengeance for the orange headed buffoon.

LonePirate

(13,919 posts)
7. Dems will not vote a Repub Speaker unless it looks like one of the extremists will win.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:41 PM
Jan 2023

There is absolutely nothing to be gained for Dems to vote for a Republican Speaker. They won't receive any committee chairs or majorities. They won't receive votes on any legislation they want to pass. They will receive nothing in exchange for their votes. An ineffectual Republican Speaker who needs Dem votes to pass budget bills and keep the government running is far better than a MAGAT Speaker but that's about it. It's still not enough for Dems to vote for a Repub unless that MAGAT could win. Dems should find or persuade 6 Republicans to back Jeffries. Otherwise, they should simply watch things play out and maybe block someone like Jordan or Gaetz from becoming Speaker.

moniss

(6,151 posts)
9. Flynn thinks he's big
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:46 PM
Jan 2023

in the RNC so maybe he'll march in and do his whole "I'm a general" routine. Previously I would have thought such a thing to be absurd but given the whole "guy full of lies who may not even be who he says he is" being sworn in today anything is possible.

LonePirate

(13,919 posts)
12. Jeffries winning is not as far-fetched as you think.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:57 PM
Jan 2023

By no means is it likely or even close to likely. However, I'd say he has a 25% chance and that's only because there are enough moderate/sane Republicans and Republicans who represent solid Biden voting districts that their concern for the country or their jobs will make them compromise. If a MAGAT stands a chance to become Speaker, that will make their lives and political futures a total nightmare. Those Repubs could tire of the circus and visit reality for a short period of time and vote for Jeffries. Again, I don't think it's likely but almost nothing would surprise me if Republicans become desperate or angry in the days ahead.

Polybius

(18,368 posts)
15. It's impossible
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 11:19 PM
Jan 2023

Even a moderate Republican would have to be an idiot to vote for him. He's not a compromise candidate, nor is he a Manchin Democrat. He's quite liberal, and everything that every Republican opposes.

If the situation were reversed, no moderate Democrat would would for McCarthy, nor should they. The only Democrat with a chance is that anti-abortion one from Texas.

Renew Deal

(83,069 posts)
17. One possibility that I think is unlikely is a replica of the old NY IDC
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 11:28 PM
Jan 2023

A bunch of republicans would vote for a Democratic leader and the republicans would get the chairmanships. I doubt that can reasonably happen in the US congress without a republican party revolt.

LonePirate

(13,919 posts)
18. Dems are not going to supply 212 votes without receiving something in return.
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 12:27 AM
Jan 2023

Not only that, members of The Squad will never vote for a Republican.

It's far more likely 10 or fewer Repubs join Dems to elect Jeffries knowing that Repubs still have the votes to pass or kill any legislation brought to the floor. It is far less likely 212 Dems vote for a Repub speaker when Dems receive absolutely nothing in the return. At least with Jeffries as Speaker, they could determine what legislation is up to a vote even if they do not control the outcome.

As stated above, I think this only has a 25% chance of happening meaning that Repubs are still the overwhelming favorite to hold the Speaker position. It is unlikely Jeffries is selected but it is not certainly not impossible.

Polybius

(18,368 posts)
20. The best and only chance for a Democrat Speaker is Henry Cuellar
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:45 AM
Jan 2023

If 202+ Democrats vote for him, all it would take would be 20 or less Republicans. I still don't think this is possible, but I like the compromise.

0 Republicans will ever join Jeffries, nor should they. What's in it for them? Nothing. Jeffries is a liberal Democrat who won't compromise to Republicans. He's poison to every Republican, even the good ones. With Cuellar, it's different.

Renew Deal

(83,069 posts)
16. The only republicans that would vote for Jeffries would be headed for retirement
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 11:22 PM
Jan 2023

Because it would be the end for them in the republican party.

Fiendish Thingy

(18,816 posts)
11. To early to tell.
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 09:57 PM
Jan 2023

Let’s see what tomorrow brings.

It doesn’t look like there is anything Kevin could promise that would secure him the needed votes, but if there is, I imagine he’s finding out what it is right now at his pizza party.

Jeebo

(2,315 posts)
13. Liz Cheney
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 10:00 PM
Jan 2023

I'm serious. She could get every Democratic vote, if Democrats will consider the fact that it's inevitably going to be a Republican and she is preferable to any other Republican, and then she'd only have to pick up six Republicans to get to 218. I know, she's a right-wing Republican, but unlike almost every other right-wing Republican, she actually does possess some honor, some decency, some sanity. Are there six Republicans out of 222 in the U.S. House who also possess those attributes?

I'm serious. It could happen.

-- Ron

mnhtnbb

(32,138 posts)
14. No way. It will be some lower level white guy
Tue Jan 3, 2023, 10:33 PM
Jan 2023

no one has ever heard of unless half a dozen Repubs from Biden voting districts actually step up to their responsibility to govern rather than sit around flinging poo and having tantrums.

onenote

(44,805 posts)
21. I don't see every Democrat supporting Cheney
Wed Jan 4, 2023, 11:57 AM
Jan 2023

The House Democrats are united in their opposition to McCarthy, Jordan, Biggs etc. But that doesn’t mean they would remain united in support of some other Republican

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