Do you approve or disapprove of the Special Council in the Biden classified documents investigation?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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	Approve
	51 (85%)
	Disapprove
	9 (15%)
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[MLAA]

1. It should officially compare and contrast President Biden's situation to TFG's shit show.

[underpants]

2. It was necessary

[MerryHolidays]

8. Appointment of A Special Counsel was

But not THIS Special Counsel, who was a Trump-appointed US Attorney and a clerk for Rehnquist.

By contrast, Jack Smith is a registered independent.

Let's not forget zealots like Ken Starr. I appreciate the Independent Counsel law is different than the Special Counsel provision, but someone less partisan, at least based on credentials, would have been FAR more appropriate.

[SheltieLover]

26. I couldn't agree more!

[Elessar Zappa]

3. Approve.

It’ll ultimately show the huge difference between what Biden did and the crimes committed by Trump.

[Farmer-Rick]

4. It's a waste of my tax dollars

It is so obviously a plant. Do we have to waste money on it too?

[kelly1mm]

19. Please enlighten us on how these documents were planted since, as you say, it is so obvious? I am

assuming these documents were 'obviously' planted post the FBI looking into President Trumps documents and thus while President Biden was President with constant Secret Service surveillance at his homes. So how did they do it and how is it 'so obvious'?

If, as you say it is 'so obviously a plant', won't a special council quickly find the culprits and be able to bring them to justice? Is that not a good thing?

[Farmer-Rick]

24. Oh come on

You can't allow yourself to be so easily manipulated. I would have thought you weren't so gullible. Think about all the coincidences it took to get these documents to be "found"...... just like Trump, 2 sets, and why weren't the National Archives aware of the missing documents?

But the purpose of the magical find of stashed secrets is to put doubt in the minds of normal people to wonder if what Trump did by stealing the hundreds? Of documents wasn't so bad. See, all presidents do it.so any investigation won't matter. It's the lie they will remember.

[kelly1mm]

25. 1) who did it if it is so obvious? 2) how did they get past the Secret Service surveillance? 3) If

it is so obvious, as you claim, the Special Council will 'obviously' find out who planted the evidence and bring them to justice, right?

Or are you claiming there is some 'deep state' that is acting to undermine the President? I think I have heard that before somewhere ....... just can't seem to remember where since I am so gullible .....

[EndlessWire]

41. See, I have my own theory

You know how Trump had all those empty folder jackets, and how everyone is wondering where those documents went? Well, I think we found them!! That's right, they're gonna show up all over town in the offices of Trump's enemies!

[Dorian Gray]

42. Hmmmm

1) There is zero proof they were planted.
2) The Biden team informed the government that they had them when THEY found them.

Do I think the Biden team is stealing documents? Heck no. But I don't know enough about the situation to actually declare anything here other than the Biden team found documents that they should not have and they informed the right people they have them and returned them.

[SYFROYH]

47. I would think you would support the investigation showing this

If you really believe they were planted.

[Joinfortmill]

5. Keeps everything legal.

[Moostache]

6. Do it in the open...

AND...if anything was untoward, illegal, nefarious or criminal - Joe must go...period.

BUT....on the flipside, Trump is to be held to the EXACT same standards, and his behavior that is already KNOWN must carry the full weight of the law on his worthless fat fucking ass.

If Trump walks, there is nothing Joe can do (short of a video taped confession to selling secrets to Russia or China) that should even raise a single blip on the media's radar...they ought to be embarrassed of themselves for the commotion they are contributing to with this documents issue NOW.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

7. I too approve.

Speculating here, nothing criminal on Biden's part. Perhaps more of sloppiness on aides.

The fact that Biden is fully cooperating without all the denials and bluster, is a stark contrast to TDFG.

[maxsolomon]

9. I don't like it one bit.

It's politics - Garland trying to perform neutrality.

Just like Jack Smith and President Asshole, I expect nothing will come of any of it.

[liberalmuse]

10. I do as long as it's transparent and unbiased.

And not another attempt at a coup.

[PufPuf23]

31. At present, the GOP is an ongoing attempt to coup.

Nice of MSNBC to show so many pictures of Biden's Corvette, stored with some of the documents.

Admit I am still surprised at the antics.

[JohnSJ]

11. I have no problem with the special counsel put on the case, what I have a problem with is that it

took the AG until November 18th 2022, to appoint a special counsel to investigate trump on the January 6th insurrection, and stolen classified documents, the later which trump publicly admitted doing

[Fiendish Thingy]

27. It only took Garland two days to appoint Trump's SC

Two days after Trump declared his candidacy, which was the event that triggered the necessity of a special counsel.

[JohnSJ]

33. It should have been triggered before that

[Fiendish Thingy]

36. Why?

It was triggered by Trump declaring his candidacy- otherwise, no special prosecutor would have been appointed.

You seem to think a special prosecutor means “faster, more aggressive prosecution”, when it actually means “a prosecutor in an administrative bubble, to avoid ethical/political compromises”.

[JohnSJ]

37. Because I don't agree with your premise. I think Garland did it because the January 6th

insurrection came very close to destroying democracy in the US, and the AG believed a special prosecutor would remove the appearance of a “political witch hunt”, because the majority of republicans, according to the polls believe Biden did not win the 2020 election.

That is why I also believe the special prosecutor should have bee done much earlier, because the evidence is overwhelming and requires it.

[EndlessWire]

43. I thought we had to get rid of

the Special Master first? No offense to Dearie (rather liked the guy) but that whole mess took some time to clear up.

I think that the experience we had with that has shown that a SC is necessary for safety. I don't think the speed of light here is really an issue.

[SheltieLover]

28. Agreed!

And why a tfg appointee?

Qpukes cannot be trusted.

[JohnSJ]

34. Politics. From his perspective he thinks it demonstrates how "fair" he is

[SheltieLover]

38. There is no appeasing them.

So why bother?

I thought Mueller was credible. Pffffft.

[JohnSJ]

40. I agree

[dem4decades]

12. I disapprove of the DOJ the last 2 years. Actually the last 6 years but

I had hopes that the last two wouldn't have been so disappointing.

If I hadn't thought this DOJ would have been better I wouldn't be so disappointed.

[ColinC]

13. Seems like like a legitimate and credible individual

I will always wonder how Janet Reno ever thought Ken Starr would be a good fit as special counsel.

[Maru Kitteh]

14. It's necessary, not just to the appearance, but the practice of fairness.

[48656c6c6f20]

15. It might be a good idea to quickly clear any wrong doing

But it burns my ass the fuckers always expedite investigating democrats and republicans always game the system and nothing happens. And how I'm an inpatient fuck because I see the injustice but these lawyers that are part of the problem think they know better. Fuck em.

[MerryBlooms]

16. The next Special Council appointed, should be investigating National Archives...

Why are our nation's documents, and top secret documents, not being tracked properly? Also, every document suddenly being 'discovered ', origin and investigation of why it wasn't returned. Find out who's dropping the ball on the non returned documents. This is unacceptable. If these documents are sensitive, someone delivered them, and someone should have made sure they were returned. There is a proper chain of protocols, that are Not being followed! Let's get some investigation into that mess. What a shitshow.

[EndlessWire]

44. I agree.

And, if they insist on using old fashioned paper folders for these documents, they should invent something that matches the docs to the folders, for good measure.

Say, did Biden write on his documents? Did he make crib notes on them? Inquiring minds want to know...

[gab13by13]

17. The only way it fits the guidelines for using a special counsel,

is if the US Marshall told Garland he found evidence of possible crimes committed by President Biden, then I agree.

If there was no evidence of crimes then appointing a sc was done because Garland is appeasing Gym Jordan who is planning to investigate DOJ and the FBI.

[Fiendish Thingy]

30. Far from appeasing Jordan, I'm sure it will frustrate the hell out of him

Because, if he tries to hold Benghazi style hearings about Biden’s documents, he better get used to hearing witnesses reply with “I’m not going to comment on an ongoing investigation” over and over again.

Jordan will have be satisfied with Hunter’s laptop.

P.S. clearly, Obama era classified documents belong in the archives; since they weren’t where they belonged, that’s probable cause that somebody committed a crime, justifying the special counsel.

[JohnSJ]

35. Excellent analysis

[EndlessWire]

45. Yeah, we have trouble here.

Garland is supposed to have consulted some learned fellow before he made the decision. I see this as a preemptive strike.

[mvd]

18. Approve of the idea, but don't approve of who he chose to be SC

Can anyone Trump appointed be fair? It worries me.

[EndlessWire]

46. I agree. n/t

[BlueIdaho]

20. I do not approve of Garland.

I’ve given up on that guy. To those who say “What if Trump is indicted tomorrow?” I say - it’s too fucking late. He should resign.

[iemanja]

22. same here

[Poiuyt]

29. Same here

[iemanja]

21. It was not neccessary

It's some bullshit is what it is. It took two years of Trump's stonewalling for Garland to appoint a Special Counsel for him, but he appoints one for Biden in a flash. He isn't even trying to look like he's being equivalent. Garland is terrible at his job.

[Dum Aloo]

23. Approve, it does not embarrass me, as a Democrat, at all.

There is a huge difference between honorable President Biden and dishonorable loser t***p, and the American people will see it. Get it on the record.

Right wing media can spin it every which way, but in the end there will be a reckoning.

“Intent” will be the watch word.

[Skittles]

39. WILL there be a reckoning though?

Dems are held to a FAR HIGHER STANDARD than repukes

[Dum Aloo]

49. I agree, and I think the "reckoning" in this case may end up just being

in the hearts and minds of the People.

[Skittles]

51. ALAS

what "WE THE PEOPLE" think or want or need doesn't seem to be a high priority with repukes and the press

[Dum Aloo]

53. Without resorting to violence,

it comes down to the vote.

[Skittles]

54. the majority of voters did NOT vote for Donald Fucking Trump

'nuff said

[usonian]

32. Looks like a case of "head them off at the pass".

Get there faster than Gym, and in addition, "can't comment on an ongoing investigation".
Don't forget, Hunter Biden is being investigated by DOJ.

And a counterweight to the "witch hunt" claim.
Makes sense to certain minds.

Not mine.

Were the documents planted? Ask the movers from Q-Haul.

(sarcasm) I HOPE!

[Johonny]

50. Ken Starr is still dead right?

It's probably a nothing-burger.

[friend of a friend]

52. Everything in our office was stamped TOP SECRET NSA codeword.

If someone brought in a menu from the NCO club someone would stamp it. The only way a paper left the office was in a burn bag or sent out with the courier.