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NRaleighLiberal

(60,569 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:23 PM Nov 2012

One of the most odd and tone-deaf memes I heard today about Obama's victory -

I think it was Talk of the Nation, and I am thinking it was the Pew research fellow - "the Obama campaign went after Romney early and made it about him and how disconnected he is from the average American" etc. - and that "incumbent presidents always run on their record, it is unprecedented to run on just attacking the competitor". Which of course leaves unsaid but can be extrapolated- that there is no record to run on. And - never, ever a mention of non-stop obstruction from the right.

This just follows a common theme I've heard - I heard it on Diane Rehm's show today - no one ever talks about the fact that there WERE NO LIES in Obama's ads. And that Romney's entire platform - everything he said, was lies. Throughout the entire campaign, rarely was the Romney campaign ever truly called out for their lies, or the Obama campaign for its honesty.

So the pundits today continued to play equivalence - "both sides do it", "both sides lie", "both sides have principles and are of equal value". This is just wrong - this is what the public must be fed up with (the left part), and what drives the hubris and nastiness of right wing hate radio.

Amazing that if the show was on the other foot, they would have still found a way to spin it against Obama, I am sure.

So on day 1, if the question is "did the media and pundits get the message that the electorate sent"?

The answer, sadly, from what I heard, is "NO".

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One of the most odd and tone-deaf memes I heard today about Obama's victory - (Original Post) NRaleighLiberal Nov 2012 OP
Agreed! I did see a few headlines and 'fact-checking' things that seemed to claim that codjh9 Nov 2012 #1
Agreed, NRaleighLib.. Permanut Nov 2012 #2
I guess they never heard the term "swiftboating" before. reusrename Nov 2012 #3

codjh9

(2,781 posts)
1. Agreed! I did see a few headlines and 'fact-checking' things that seemed to claim that
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:26 PM
Nov 2012

Obama had lied some too, but I didn't look at them all to see what they were saying. I doubt that he did, but more importantly, as you say, on the other side it was unbelievably rampant... and don't forget RYAN, holy shit - lie lie lie.

Permanut

(6,714 posts)
2. Agreed, NRaleighLib..
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:28 PM
Nov 2012

Very odd that lies are apparently okay now, and facts are not very useful, and false equivalencies substitute for journalism or real analysis, at least in the right wing world. Among other reasons, it is odd because of the support from so many "Christians" who apparently think Jesus would approve of it all.

 

reusrename

(1,716 posts)
3. I guess they never heard the term "swiftboating" before.
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 07:41 PM
Nov 2012

There does seem to be an honesty gap.

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