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Nevilledog

(53,354 posts)
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:30 PM May 2023

Man who witnessed Allen outlet mall shooting describes carnage: 'It's just unfathomable'

https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/man-witnessed-allen-outlet-mall-shooting/

*snip*

"When the multiple shots happened, my heart just dropped," he said. "I was on the phone with 911 and I was telling them we have a mass casualty incident."

Spainhouer said he got there before any first responders and while a handful of people around him recorded videos of the bodies on the ground, he tried to save lives.

"I never imagined in 100 years I would be thrust into the position of being the first first responder on the site to take care of people," he shared. "The first girl I walked up to was crouched down covering her head in the bushes, so I felt for a pulse, pulled her head to the side and she had no face."

Spainhouer said he also found a child, who survived while covered by his protective mother who had been killed.

"When I rolled the mother over, he came out. I asked him if he was OK and he said, 'My mom is hurt, my mom is hurt.' So rather than traumatize him, I pulled him around the corner sat him down and he was covered from head to toe...like somebody poured blood on him."

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Man who witnessed Allen outlet mall shooting describes carnage: 'It's just unfathomable' (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2023 OP
Any minds changed today? Frasier Balzov May 2023 #1
Among republicans? Mr.Bill May 2023 #23
Make that an Factual fuck no! YoshidaYui May 2023 #24
Steve BeerBarrelPolka May 2023 #27
NRA has what was Cha May 2023 #34
"she had no face." OAITW r.2.0 May 2023 #2
I can not imagine having to witness this tragedy LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #3
Just trauma on top of trauma. Nevilledog May 2023 #4
Traumatized. That's what the aim of terrorism is. Beartracks May 2023 #15
We live in a war zone. pandr32 May 2023 #5
The reporter should have asked him who he voted for last year and who he's voting for next year. LonePirate May 2023 #6
This jumps out at me. sheshe2 May 2023 #7
It jumped out at me too.. whathehell May 2023 #8
Exactly. sheshe2 May 2023 #12
For some it may have been the only coping mechanism at hand. Remove themselves Maru Kitteh May 2023 #14
I don't know either, Maru. sheshe2 May 2023 #17
That stood out to me too. chowder66 May 2023 #9
I posted just above to whatthehell. sheshe2 May 2023 #13
His son worked at the H&M and had called him as it started. 7wo7rees May 2023 #11
If this were a vehicular accident dianaredwing May 2023 #18
THIS n/t malaise May 2023 #26
I have no words ... ...nt Jarqui May 2023 #10
Phucking gun nuts support this insanity so THEY can have what AllyCat May 2023 #16
they are cowards Skittles May 2023 #21
They feel invulnerable because they have guns. wnylib May 2023 #25
This sounds right. They want fear because AllyCat May 2023 #31
this is how the founders intended the 2nd Amendment? Captain Zero May 2023 #19
"I never imagined in 100 years" Skittles May 2023 #20
Abbott Old Crank May 2023 #22
Next he'll need to deal with everything the rightwing conspiracy and lie machine will throw at him. tanyev May 2023 #28
Steven Spainhouer honest.abe May 2023 #29
Of course the nutjobs are already attacking him. johnp3907 May 2023 #32
OMG, this eye witness account from a first responder Emile May 2023 #30
This man was on the Sunday Show with Jonathon Capehart LetMyPeopleVote May 2023 #33

YoshidaYui

(42,985 posts)
24. Make that an Factual fuck no!
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:28 AM
May 2023

Republicans don’t care unless somebody is shooting at them!

Beartracks

(13,620 posts)
15. Traumatized. That's what the aim of terrorism is.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:38 AM
May 2023

Living under constant threat and fear, not knowing when or where the next attack will come. Is that not tyranny?

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pandr32

(12,321 posts)
5. We live in a war zone.
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:38 PM
May 2023

The American dream has been turned into a nightmare we are all stuck in.

LonePirate

(13,934 posts)
6. The reporter should have asked him who he voted for last year and who he's voting for next year.
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:38 PM
May 2023

Then he should have been asked why he's voting that way.

I don't need first hand accounts of the carnage. I want self-reflection from them. I want them to realize where the solution is to all of these shootings.

sheshe2

(88,371 posts)
7. This jumps out at me.
Sat May 6, 2023, 11:45 PM
May 2023

This jumps out at me and it PISSES ME OFF.


Spainhouer said he got there before any first responders and while a handful of people around him recorded videos of the bodies on the ground, he tried to save lives.


All those people coldly, cruelly recorded and posted videos and did not for a moment consider helping the victims. Spainhouer did.

I can't even.

Call me out if you want, this makes me ill.

whathehell

(29,890 posts)
8. It jumped out at me too..
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:04 AM
May 2023

To be "recording", instead of helping in that situation seems cold and sick to me.

sheshe2

(88,371 posts)
12. Exactly.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:15 AM
May 2023

Thank you. I felt gut punched when I read that.

Were they recording for the thrill? Perhaps the money they can make from selling it. This wasn't like recording George Floyd's murder. They were held back by police and they were recording the violence...these people were taking pictures of dead babies, their mommies and dads.

Maru Kitteh

(29,267 posts)
14. For some it may have been the only coping mechanism at hand. Remove themselves
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:32 AM
May 2023

from the very real horror of the situation by relegating it to a tiny screen.

I don't know. It's all I can come up with. I guess that's my coping mechanism.





sheshe2

(88,371 posts)
17. I don't know either, Maru.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:41 AM
May 2023

Perhaps you are right, yet it doesn't seem right to me. I just don't know.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
11. His son worked at the H&M and had called him as it started.
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:13 AM
May 2023

Spainhouer called 911 and got in vehicle, raced to site, got there before any other 1st responders. I believe police officer on site had already "neutralized" shooter.

This could have been so much worse had that officer not happened to be there, by chance, on another call.

Every incident is horrific. This one touched to very, very close to home. I've shopped there with my mom. Too many people I know shop there. I don't believe it will ever be the same. We truly are not safe to go anywhere, anytime of the day or night.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
18. If this were a vehicular accident
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:49 AM
May 2023

Isn't an individual obligated by law to help if possible or is that only if one is involved in the accident? I seem to recall from a long time ago (age isn't all that great for remembering details) that if you are part of a chain accident (could a mass shooting qualify) that you were not to leave the scene but to render aid if possible. I am probably delusional.

AllyCat

(17,272 posts)
16. Phucking gun nuts support this insanity so THEY can have what
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:41 AM
May 2023

They want. Just in case THEY need to do a shooting some day.

wnylib

(24,923 posts)
25. They feel invulnerable because they have guns.
Sun May 7, 2023, 02:51 AM
May 2023

They are convinced that if they are at the scene of a mass shooting they will be able to defend themselves and take out the shooter.

It does not occur to them that they might be the first or second one shot, caught by surprise without warning, before they even have time to see where the shots are coming from or who the shooter is.

I agree with posts that say that this is domestic terrorism and that's the reason why R legislators are happy to have guns available to anyone, any time, any where. When people feel terrified, they are more willing to accept authoritarian leadership.

Captain Zero

(7,599 posts)
19. this is how the founders intended the 2nd Amendment?
Sun May 7, 2023, 01:11 AM
May 2023

To function in our daily lives?

I call bullshit. This is not freedom, it's tyranny.

Skittles

(160,529 posts)
20. "I never imagined in 100 years"
Sun May 7, 2023, 01:15 AM
May 2023

WTF, no one should be thinking like that anymore, this kind of shit can happen ANYWHERE to ANYONE

tanyev

(44,818 posts)
28. Next he'll need to deal with everything the rightwing conspiracy and lie machine will throw at him.
Sun May 7, 2023, 06:50 AM
May 2023

LetMyPeopleVote

(155,930 posts)
33. This man was on the Sunday Show with Jonathon Capehart
Sun May 7, 2023, 12:49 PM
May 2023

Here is a link that does not discuss the state of the victims when this first responder arrived


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