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Waterguy

(278 posts)
Sat Nov 18, 2023, 08:25 PM Nov 2023

Remember when Presidential politics were different?

used to be - once you won your party's nomination, you shifted to the center at least a bit, to appeal to all voters in the general election.
Of course - the true state of change always remains who has control over both houses.
This has always been for the most part a partial win for both parties and the American public - at least to some extent, since it allowed people to always focus on progress.

Nothing's been perfect in the past, we all know. And sometimes we take two steps forward and another one back, and this is frustrating and chaotic at times, but one hopes somehow, we as a people move forward.

Now, it's a different game starting with Trump. Yes, the propaganda was there prior to Trump, but Trump has taken it far beyond
wrong policy decisions into the arena of Fascist dictatorship. And oh, how he has his believers - if nothing else, this has to tell us that something is really wrong the state of our union...

Trump needs to be in jail! Which is not by any stretch anti-constitutional, or politically motivated a statement to make.

He said going into a presidential election that he would fight the outcome if he lost, and then he did. And even though his advisors told him he did lose and had no leg to stand on contesting that fact, he and his minions in the Republican Party continued to lie and say he won - even after 62 court cases showed he had not one shred of evidence to the contrary - because there was none.

That's the first time in American History since our founding that that's happened.
What's more, Trump then proceeded to incite violence on the US Capital, something that can only be called an insurrection on our government.

A standing President of the US did this. And then, a whole host of US Republican Congress men and women followed suit and voted no in confirming the duly elected delegates confirming Biden's win.

And then, A Republican majority in the house failed to impeach him - Donald Trump, once again - even though the Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell cited one Donald Trump completely and utterly responsible for the attack on the US Capital on Jan 6, 2021.

All of this has played out in our minds, and it's obvious or should be to any rational citizen.

Also - we know the US is plagued by inequality - especially after Covid;
just like we all know Climate Change is an existential threat to humankind,
we know healthcare is far too expensive, we know about Putin's savage attack on Ukraine,
and what's going on with China (we need serious well thought agreements with China for the benefit of all)

We need a voice for the people - all the people. And now is no time for another fool - or a bunch of idiots,
to hold power.

Get the young people in this country involved. We need dialogue from the young to move forward.
There's a whole lot of shit on the agenda!










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Remember when Presidential politics were different? (Original Post) Waterguy Nov 2023 OP
Odd. I don't remember raygun or the shrubs ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #1
A lot of s*** on the agenda, indeed! summer_in_TX Nov 2023 #2
 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
1. Odd. I don't remember raygun or the shrubs
Sun Nov 19, 2023, 12:29 AM
Nov 2023

Running to the center. Maybe hand-waved at it, maybe paid minimal lip service to it, but they made zero real attempts to move to the center.

summer_in_TX

(3,294 posts)
2. A lot of s*** on the agenda, indeed!
Sun Nov 19, 2023, 12:36 AM
Nov 2023
…now is no time for another fool - or a bunch of idiots,
to hold power.

Get the young people in this country involved. We need dialogue from the young to move forward.


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