I am never watching the Weekend again.

[Demsrule86]

I like Simone but Michael Steele sat there all disappointed with the idea of Biden’s success in Carolina with a worried nasty expression. Biden has a ‘big problem’. The Democrats are doomed I tell you

And they had Dean Phillips on the show. Steele gives him a chance to defend his plan to stay in the election and attack Biden.

Bad polls and more bullshit. Simone pushed back, but it is not enough. I am turning it off. Make no mistake, Steele has an agenda. I won’t watch it again.

[Srkdqltr]

1. Isn't Michael Steel a republican? Wasn't he head of the republican party?

He's against Trump but still republican.

[Demsrule86]

2. True that. Do you know how to self delete. I edited this and posted it twice!

[redqueen]

11. Click on 'powers' under the post

There's an option there to self-delete

[brooklynite]

27. And you want MSNBC to only include Democrats?

Personally I don’t need my news to be in a safe bubble…

[Demsrule86]

46. I don't think a MNBC should pile on Joe Biden the day after he won a primary decisvely and give

Dean Phillips who got fewer votes than Williamson an opportunity to trash Biden...they can put what they want on their network. But I won't watch it...and Steele is going on about how bad Trump is but almost everything he did today helps Trump and hurts Biden. I can watch Fox news or lately CNN If I want to watch this sort of crap. Phillips actually said that TFG listens better than Biden with no pushback. Why the hell would they put Phillips on...he did horribly and they pretty much ignored the strong numbers in Biden's win yesterday. There were more shitty polls and very little information on the South Carolina primary on this sorry show.

[brooklynite]

57. And your opinion is that one person's comment is "piling on"?

[whathehell]

58. Two people -- Michael Steele and Dean Phillips.

[Srkdqltr]

63. Not at all. I have heard him on shows a lot. I have no problem with his opinions.

Keeping in mind that he is republican and some of his opinions might reflect that. I was responding to the poster.

[agingdem]

60. Michael Steele is like most Republican Never Trumpers ..

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they hate Trump more than they hate Democrats...and irony or all ironies they are responsible for the rise of Trump... because they despised the Clintons, Hillary in particular, they embraced Trump and sold him as a viable candidate, someone who would grow into the majesty of the office...and when he turned on them, they suddenly saw the light and reinvented themselves as Never Trumpers, telling anyone who would listen they never liked this amoral malicious revenge-fueled pathological liar, this narcissist psychopath...right!

[hlthe2b]

3. I missed that segment, but honestly the three thrown together as hosts seems really forced...

and quite disjointed. I don't dislike any of them on their own, but together the dynamics just feel waaay off. I'd be surprised if this show succeeds.

[Demsrule86]

18. It really wasnt good.

[onecaliberal]

4. Yup. Joy has him on frequently too. I turn it. I'm over that recon lover.

[Demsrule86]

19. Fast forward because i like Joy.

[Raven123]

5. The Phillips interview was disappointing

Nuance aside, they repeatedly asked him when he was getting out of the race. He repeated said TFG listened to the people. Expect to see that in a GOP campaign ad. Not enough pushback by a long shot.

If he agreed with TFG about the border, I would have hoped they would have asked him about what he has done as a congressman to address the issue and what he would do differently from Biden.

Oh, and he noted saiid Biden shouldn’t be running at this stage of life. I may be paraphrasing, but we all know what that means

[2naSalit]

6. Phillips is just...

Another rich boi wannbe who has nothing to offer as a Representative in the House, can't imagine how he thinks he has any skill sets for the presidency. I recall his lame attempt at challenging michelle bachman years ago.

Someone is propping him up if he isn't wasting his own funds.

[Raven123]

9. Sure, but call him out.

Else, Why waste everyone’s time with an interview ?

[2naSalit]

12. Agreed...

Definitely call him out for his personal desire for his unqualified ass to land in the most powerful office.

[patphil]

43. Dean Phillips definitely has a questionable agenda.

He finished a weak 3rd, with less than 2% of the vote. What possible reason would he have to continue when it's obvious that Biden is going to be the candidate?
Turnout was light, but you would expect that in a primary where the front runner is the current President, who is doing an excellent job. The results reflect that.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/south-carolina-president-results

Biden got over 94% in each of the counties.

[Demsrule86]

7. Does Phillips want Trump to win?

[Raven123]

14. Sure had me wondering.

Why not challenge him on the border issue? I’m tired of the bull. Did they ask why birder crossings increase under TFG? No. Did they ask how he would address the problem? No. At least they addressed his frequent missed votes.

[Demsrule86]

21. Right?

I think he is bitter.

[Demsrule86]

8. Praising Donald Trump will likely end his career in

the Democratic Party.

[TSExile]

13. Good!!

Not a moment too soon!!

[Demsrule86]

22. I agree. I cant stand him.

[spanone]

53. He also said 'Biden can't win'....it's you dean who got less than 2%

fuck off

[Fiendish Thingy]

10. I wonder how Medhi Hasan would've handled the Phillips interview?

Much differently, but we’ll never know.

[TSExile]

15. I miss Mehdi, too.

I loved whenever Ben Collins was part of a panel discussion, a copy of Mehdi's book was prominently displayed behind him!!!

[comradebillyboy]

17. Mhedi would have blamed Biden for the Gaza war.

He was never a friend to Democrats.

[Demsrule86]

23. I thought Mehdi was very good and watched his show.

[Judi Lynn]

33. Mehdi's removal was cowardly, and a crude power play. Shabby, raw, ignorant behavior from MSNBC.

[Deuxcents]

35. I will agree

[maptap22]

16. I heard that in my car...

And I was yelling at my radio. 😡. Right after they talk about how great it is that Joe got 96% of the SC vote, Steele came on to say Joe is in trouble. Big FU to him.

[Demsrule86]

24. I was livid myself and he had a nasty expression as well on TV.

[Wounded Bear]

20. None of them are really what I would call a "favorite" commentator of mine...

so I plan to usually skip that show.

[Demsrule86]

25. I will not watch Michael steele. I like Simone but just no to this show.

[Wounded Bear]

26. I don't hate him, but I do know where he's coming from...

MSNBC has several ex-repubs on payroll, some of whom I don't mind listening to.

[Demsrule86]

47. Michael Steele has gone to the dark side IMHO...he helped Trump today...I find

that unforgivable with what is at stake this year.

[spooky3]

56. I like Simone too, and at one time I had hope for Michael S

but he clearly likes Dem policies only when they benefi him personally.

[GreenWave]

28. This is the problem of MSNBC in general:

Kiss butt of oh the good old GOP days commentators. The GOP deserves to be smashed into oblivion for going along with this decade of bullshit, not resurrected.

[CTyankee]

34. I give Mika a lot of credit for banning KellyAnn Conway for her "alternative facts" remark early on in the Trump

Administration (mi scusi, TSF's administration).

[Demsrule86]

48. When Phillips said TFG listened better than Biden, I almost threw the remote at the TV.

[brooklynite]

29. But how will people be able to complain about it if they don't watch regularly?

[hydrolastic]

30. when I watch Michael Steele I always remember he is a Republican,

Even though he has defected so to speak his premiss is and always will be to get rid of SS empower the rich(trickle down theory ) and pack the courts. Prove me wrong!

[Blue Idaho]

37. Michael is triangulating

As an old school R he is hedging his bets and hoping that the old party will rise again. Republican or not, he is still an arch conservative.

[Judi Lynn]

31. I believe this is only the 2nd week for this program, think they should be given adequate time to get their bearings.

I have been horrified to see the network advance Alicia Menendez so quickly, being the daughter of New Jersey "Democratic" Senator, Cuban-American Robert Menendez, who's once again being heavily investigated for corruption. I'm convinced the network hopes to attract viewers from the US Cuban-American "exile" base, which controls Florida politics and its 29 electors, as well as heavy influence in New Jersey, etc. That group has had political clout which far exceeds any justification. The Cuban "exiles" have retained their power simply by being unique pawns in play in the State Department's maniacal obsession with Cuba which actually has existed since the late 1800's, long before the Cuban people rebelled against the last US puppet, bloody dictator Fulgencio Batista.

Alicia has been propelled up the ladder at MSNBC rapidly from her first day, while she clearly lacks skills, experience, or simple personal presence to justify her appearing anywhere in their lineup. She stands in stark contrast to their other hosts.

Michael and Simone are warm, open, bright, engaging, personally invested, concerned, knowledgeable, conscientious. Michael has clearly leaped totally free of his early Republican political association well before they all went totally criminally insane together. He has been a popular guest with other MSNBC hosts for years, always bringing something worthwhile to bear in conversations.

[TSExile]

66. Agreed!!

This is only the second week on the air, and I like all three of the hosts. I will give them more of a chance.

[MineralMan]

32. OK. Thanks for letting us know...

[Bucky]

36. I saw Steele on the "Bulwark" podcast this morning and I thought he made some great points

He's always had a weird demeanor, which is common among Washington insiders. But if you're going to watch shows like that, you have to be prepared to hear a few things you don't like

[claudette]

38. To be honest

I never watch it. Simone is annoying to me.

[Demsrule86]

52. She wasn't at her best today. That is for sure.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

39. Steele rarely adds anything constructive or particularly insightful to panel discussions.

He's just a phone chain pundit, repeating things that strike him as sounding like conventional DC wisdom.

[Vinca]

40. I'm with you. They go on and on and on about whatever new poll says that is bad for Biden and

completely ignore his overwhelming victories. It seems the real poll - our votes - doesn't count for them. As for that Phillips slime ball, they failed to mention the investigation into the phony information to get him on the Indiana ballot. You'd think Phillips was a real contender if you watched that show. He's a joke at this point. He couldn't even beat Williamson in S. Carolina.

[Quakerfriend]

44. Exactly! Shame on them for bringing

Phillips on, given the investigation into the
falsification of signatures.

And, M. Rajan was just on CNN interviewing Santos about the candidates running for his seat.

[jaxexpat]

41. A black Republican in 2024 is an intentionally aberrant political "coquette" with questionable aims and motivations.

[Demsrule86]

55. You are right...and IMHO, he should not be hosting shows.

[jaxexpat]

62. Yeah and I also fantasize that Fox will open their entertainment programs with a disclaimer.

[hunter]

42. Television news and opinion is worthless.

I quit a long time ago. My wife never paid any attention to it. We read all our news and opinion. Reading gives one time to pause and sharpen one's critical thinking skills. Television simply smothers you in bullshit, a continuous gish gallop of garbage and distractions.

In retrospect I think this was always true, even when I was young and my dad was watching Walter Cronkite on the CBS Evening News. Only the volume has changed. What was once half a half hour of garbage interspersed with some little gems of rationality, is now a 24/7 fire hose of raw sewage.

[Demsrule86]

50. True, I get most of news and ideas here on DU or by looking a poll internals...also

by reading articles from a variety of newspapers. I have watched some of the House shenanigans also.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

45. I was amused by the "What the hell are you doing?" clip

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

49. That was the best clip and then it went downhill from there.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

65. The interview with Marc Elias on the 14th Amendment SCOTUS disqualification case was great

I have read all of the parties' briefs and a good number of the amicus briefs. I agree with Marc's analysis. If the SCOTUS does its job and apply the law and use the right history, then the SCOTUS should disqualify TFG

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[senseandsensibility]

51. The fact that MS is on the panel is enough for me

to never watch it.

[Demsrule86]

54. I am starting to feel that way. Dean Phillips said TFG listened better than Biden, he

(Phillips) agreed with TFG about the border and Biden was too old with almost no pushback...Screw Phillips and the so called panel.

[bluestarone]

59. Agree. I so looked forward to Veshi in the morning.

Now it's all changed. I know Velshi is still on later, but it was better the other way.

[Demsrule86]

64. I think Velshi gets treated like dirt...Menendez is not good. I don't like Jen Psaki that much either.

[LakeArenal]

61. Their opinions aren't even backed up by a poll....

…and I think polls are bs.

[rdchili96]

67. Hehe

You problem was watching corporate media in the first place lol.