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I'm afraid the border and Israel-Hamas war... (Original Post) Septua May 2024 OP
As you yourself wrote: Torchlight May 2024 #1
No, I believe women are still mad Elessar Zappa May 2024 #2
You still have the right in my Tickle May 2024 #24
It's officially depression Wednesday on the forum BannonsLiver May 2024 #3
I like that... Septua May 2024 #10
But, I can get depressed... Septua May 2024 #12
No mcar May 2024 #4
Those are his two biggest liabilities, cilla4progress May 2024 #5
Inflation (CPI) and perceptions of the economy are the biggest worries I have. The border is up there, and I/P for Celerity May 2024 #6
I feel that many things can sway edhopper May 2024 #7
Not sure it's going to result in a definite loss Arthur_Frain May 2024 #8
I keep thinking he'll win the popular vote but... Septua May 2024 #16
By my math, it is razor thin sarisataka May 2024 #9
Yep, got to accept what looks like reality. Septua May 2024 #15
We ignored warning signs in 2016, to our detriment sarisataka May 2024 #17
Why are you DEPRSSSING the VOTE for Pres Biden?! Cha May 2024 #11
I'd like to know that, too. wnylib May 2024 #13
Thank You! Cha May 2024 #18
If that is directed at me... Septua May 2024 #14
Yes I replied Exactly to your OP. Cha May 2024 #19
I can appreciate your position... Septua May 2024 #30
Yes, the MAGA party has ratcheted up propaganda. wnylib May 2024 #23
The 2020 repeat Septua May 2024 #29
yep... myohmy2 May 2024 #20
No budkin May 2024 #21
No one can say Russia doesn't know how to fuck with the US elections. Behind the Aegis May 2024 #22
The Biden administration is doing all it can every day on issues affecting the election. betsuni May 2024 #25
It is May ... SomewhereInTheMiddle May 2024 #26
I don't think we are talking about all the right things. GoodRaisin May 2024 #27
Sounds like something the rightwing spin doctors would try to spread. Think. Again. May 2024 #28
Wow, some deep analysis there FrankBooth May 2024 #31
I am admittedly... Septua May 2024 #32

Torchlight

(4,252 posts)
1. As you yourself wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024, 10:41 AM
May 2024

"The majority of voters may not like Biden for whatever reasons but I believe they will remember Trump's 4 year debacle and vote for sanity on Nov 5."

Elessar Zappa

(16,223 posts)
2. No, I believe women are still mad
Wed May 29, 2024, 10:41 AM
May 2024

about their right to choose being taken away and will come out in droves in November. Democrats have hugely over-performed in several elections these past couple of years due to that issue and I see no reason why November will be any different.

Tickle

(3,232 posts)
24. You still have the right in my
Thu May 30, 2024, 02:50 AM
May 2024

state and the surrounding states. There must be a list of the states that banned abortion?

Septua

(2,638 posts)
12. But, I can get depressed...
Wed May 29, 2024, 08:42 PM
May 2024

..listening to the war and border whiners. Presidents always get blamed for whatever unpleasant issues are going on and there's that 3% of undecided who could go the wrong way.

Celerity

(47,145 posts)
6. Inflation (CPI) and perceptions of the economy are the biggest worries I have. The border is up there, and I/P for
Wed May 29, 2024, 11:10 AM
May 2024

younger voters.

edhopper

(35,114 posts)
7. I feel that many things can sway
Wed May 29, 2024, 11:12 AM
May 2024

low info, unthinking voters. The way the Comey nothingburger announcement cost Hillary.

I am worried in general.

Arthur_Frain

(2,208 posts)
8. Not sure it's going to result in a definite loss
Wed May 29, 2024, 11:13 AM
May 2024

but it's frustrating, because IMHO without this BS going on in gaza right now, I'd be feeling pretty comfortable. Well, as comfortable as I can be knowing that just under half of America is dumber than a box of rocks.

Septua

(2,638 posts)
16. I keep thinking he'll win the popular vote but...
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:00 PM
May 2024

..that won't necessarily win the election.

sarisataka

(21,340 posts)
9. By my math, it is razor thin
Wed May 29, 2024, 11:13 AM
May 2024

And I cannot honestly say we are on the good side of the razor.

I believe it comes down to Michigan, Georgia and Arizona. We need 2 of those 3 to keep Biden in office and I am pessimistic about Michigan.

sarisataka

(21,340 posts)
17. We ignored warning signs in 2016, to our detriment
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:16 PM
May 2024

I fear some are making the same mistakes in '24

Septua

(2,638 posts)
14. If that is directed at me...
Wed May 29, 2024, 08:57 PM
May 2024

..I'm not forecasting, just looking at polls, listening to headlines and concerned over how many voters don't think like we at DU think.

Add to that the Trump party's ratcheted up propaganda to an all time high, Trump party plans to to screw with the elections and the situation is disconcerting.

I hear Joe is going to rev up his negative campaign at Trump after the current trial ends which might help.

And if the jury can convict Trump on at least on of the charges, that will help.

Cha

(306,135 posts)
19. Yes I replied Exactly to your OP.
Wed May 29, 2024, 09:38 PM
May 2024

And, I think you are... Just what we need.. More Concern Negativity.. Not.

We're Going to WIN In Spite of All the Evil Forces Against Us.. and that Includes the US Media and All their Damn "polls".

We've always had to deal with this to Fight for Our Democracy.. Too many Greedy Asshole Idiots out there and Cult Morons.

Septua

(2,638 posts)
30. I can appreciate your position...
Thu May 30, 2024, 11:12 AM
May 2024

..and didn't want to light anyone's fuse but positive thinking alone won't reelect Joe.

As you noted, there are too many greedy idiots and cult morons and no one knows how many of them want Trump back in office or what they will do to get him back in office.

wnylib

(25,037 posts)
23. Yes, the MAGA party has ratcheted up propaganda.
Thu May 30, 2024, 02:48 AM
May 2024

Part of the propaganda is how well they are doing in comparison to Biden. Their reason for that particular propaganda line is to set the stage for claiming fraud if he loses. It's a 2020 repeat.

A Biden win is no shoe-in. The nation's political climate is different today from 2020. We have to work harder for votes this time than in 2020. But we can win this.

Septua

(2,638 posts)
29. The 2020 repeat
Thu May 30, 2024, 11:00 AM
May 2024

Yeah, and that's the part that pisses me off. Trump is not going away for any reason.

If he loses the election, he will contest the results; if he is convicted in the hush money trial, he will continue to campaign for the presidency.

Of course, contesting an election loss will be under different circumstances this time since he's not the incumbent. If the lower courts follow the rules and throw out the bogus lawsuits, his only course of action will be another attempt at blocking the transfer of power.

And I'm guessing he'll have a plan ready for that. And I'm hoping there is a defense plan for that.

myohmy2

(3,572 posts)
20. yep...
Wed May 29, 2024, 10:57 PM
May 2024

...from ambivalence and apathy especially with the Gaza war...

...by letting yahu pull our chain we've lost the moral high ground with most of the world's communities and with an ever increasing number of voting Americans who are offended by yahu's relentless carnage...

...no one is going back to the world of October 6th and just like the russians in Ukraine the Arabs have the numbers to keep this going for as long as it takes...many Americans see the Gaza war as just another dead end leading nowhere...another black hole for our depleting money and resources...

...meanwhile who is winning is china, russia, iran and hamas all of whom have a stake in see us decline and weakened...

...it's sad that we're getting blamed...

betsuni

(27,350 posts)
25. The Biden administration is doing all it can every day on issues affecting the election.
Thu May 30, 2024, 03:21 AM
May 2024

Jill Biden said today on "The View" that her husband has met with CEOs about prices. Thank you to everyone here posting what the administration is doing. I have confidence that all that can be done will have been done by November.

I have no confidence in the American people and it's up to them. If Trump wins, pundits will blather on about how he won because Biden was so terrible. It's insane.

26. It is May ...
Thu May 30, 2024, 03:32 AM
May 2024

There is still so much time before the election for things to go right or wrong. So many things could happen between now and November that will replace the border or Gaza in the news.

I do think some voters may fixate on a single issue to the exclusion of almost everything else, and depending on what that issue is for a given voter, it may impact Biden's margin.

But I don't think the current crises will still be driving the main election narrative in October.

I could be wrong. But I don't think now is the time to worry. Time to work for change, but not to give up on winning.

GoodRaisin

(9,689 posts)
27. I don't think we are talking about all the right things.
Thu May 30, 2024, 03:59 AM
May 2024

The economy is really very good “but inflation and food prices”.
Not sure what more we can say when M$M keeps pushing this narrative.

“Israel”
What more can Joe do about that he isn’t already doing?

”The border”
Republican wedge issue every fucking election.

Start talking about Americans losing their Social Security and Medicare if Trump wins. And losing health care. The two things that always seem to work for us with voters.

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