My Prediction.

[H2O Man]

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"And there assume some other horrible form,
which might deprive your sovereignty of reason,
and draw you into madness? Think of it."
William Shakespeare; Hamlet, Act 1, Scene 4.


Horatio's warning that the ghost could transform into a savage beast that drives Hamlet to insanity has been ignored by the maga cult. I suppose that most of them are unfamiliar with both the play and its author. You and I, on the other hand, are watching a Shakespearean play unfolding on the big stage.

The felon -- formerly known as the defendant -- is a sociopath. A reading of the first of my three interviews with Ft. Bandy Lee documents this. As such, growing up in a comfortable, wealthy environment, he did not experience stress. As an adult businessman, filing for bankruptcy, he knew he had his daddy's forune to draw from, and felt no stress. The lack of stress was not because he was a genius, with a very big brain (did I mention his uncle was a professor?), but because he is a human that operates on the lizard brain.

Look at the felon's eyes. What do you see? Look closely at two pits of evil (in the psychological sense, rather than religious). In general, I learn as much about a criminal by studying their eyes as I do from listening to their words plus watching their body movements. This is in large part of learning forensics from two legendary investigator uncles.

However, every day between now and July 11, we will do well to watch everything the felon says and does publicly, as well as read his rambling posts on his web site. For the defendant is experiencing stress for the first time in his adult life, and he does not know how to deal with it. Being paranoid by nature, he fears the possibility of being incarcerated. In his mind's eye, he sees his best option as the threat of violent revolution in the streets of America if that happens ..... and thus he will continue to make threats, at an increasing pace.

As it gets closer to July 11, the hard core of his cult followers will become more excited. The christian nationalists will behave in sexually aroused ways, believing they are experiencing the divine. But the non-hard core registered republicans will find it increasingly difficult to support him. His enablers and apologists in the House and Senate will feel the growing weight of the ball & chain the felon has attached to their ankles. Some will step back, though not fully away. Marjorie Taylor Greene will do something akin to shaving her hair and slicing an "X" on her foreskin, er, forehead.

The felon was tossed into the deep, dark waters of his mind by the jury's verdict. He does not know how to tread water, much less swim. Enjoy the show!

[Joinfortmill]

1. Omg, this is a thing of beauty! Well done!

[H2O Man]

13. Thank you!

Malaise deserves the credit or blame for my posting this. It's just the extended version of my response on her OP yesterday.

[MartyTheGreek]

2. I with you and he's already broadcasting it without saying stand back and standby...

Here's his setup on Fox last Sunday when asked about punishment for his crimes:

“I’m OK with it,” Trump told Fox News in an interview that aired Sunday when asked about the potential punishments. “I saw one of my lawyers the other day on television saying, ‘Oh no, you don’t want to do that to the president.’ I said: You don’t beg for anything.”

But, Trump added, “I don’t think the public would stand it. I’m not sure the public would stand for it.”

“I think it would be tough for the public to take, you know, at a certain point, there’s a breaking point,” Trump said.

My hope is that he has a personal breaking point before his rabid magas do!

[birdographer]

5. Has he met the public?

[H2O Man]

15. His pubic

is hidden under his fat gut.


Oh, wait! You said "public." Sorry!

[H2O Man]

14. I'm thinking that

the republican national convention will be hilarious a few days after sentencing!

[ShazzieB]

35. Yes, it has the potential to be highly entertaining!

[Faux pas]

3. K N R

[H2O Man]

16. Thanks!

[Auggie]

4. Wonderful post

Thanks for sharing

[H2O Man]

43. Thank you!

[bucolic_frolic]

6. Does he play the accordion? Is MAGA his little monkeys?

Those hand gestures. And in the Fox interview when he slouched down and leaned forward, so contrite. Ahem. Thought I would puke. Actually I did.

[H2O Man]

44. A failed human, he.

There was a while where I refused to watch any news segment he was on. I can relate to feeling like puking when watching him. But since the trial, I've kind of enjoyed seeing him.

[Bundbuster]

7. "The christian nationalists will behave in sexually aroused ways"

I've handled everything the MAGAts have thrown my way so far, but this scenario may exceed my breaking point. I won't even ask for further explicit details of their sexually aroused ways.

True about the felon's beady evil eyes of Satan.

[H2O Man]

45. Right!

I refuse to read about the mating rituals of the maga species. And no one will convince me that I must write a report for DU:GD's scientific journal about it.

[usonian]

8. It might be even simpler.

People don't like "a loser".

Heck, the gentle people of San Francisco are up in arms about losing 5 baseball games in a row!

And karma sometimes works in absolutely mysterious ways.

All the long delays that his lawyers fought for (and that's all they won) are prolonging the agony of one who bought his way out of every jam, and into the White House. He ran into one system that he couldn't buy, and he and his flunkies tried mightily to do so with court appointments.

There are many parallels in literature for flawed people who fail to recognize and deal with their weaknesses, who let an "idea" transfix them into misanthropic behavior. It's pretty much the true definition of tragedy.

"The Man Who Would Be King" showed the ultimate weakness: being a serial loser, one that can't be forgiven.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

17. MAGAt judges have been sprinkled through the system like stepping stones for the corrupt.

[H2O Man]

46. A couple weeks back,

an old friend asked me what I thought about the felon's campaign. I asked him if he could name anything other than self-pity, victimhood, and revenge the guy was campaigning on? He thought for a minute, and said he couldn't come up with anything. I agree that people do not find that attractive.

[malaise]

56. Profound

😀

[malaise]

9. Am loving the show

He will drown in his swamp of a brain

[H2O Man]

47. Right!

"A splendid time is guaranteed for all." -- John Lennon

[DENVERPOPS]

66. good one

"It is hard to remember, that your primary task was to drain the swamp,.......when you are surrounded by alligators"......

[jalan48]

10. K & R

[H2O Man]

48. Thanks!

[jalan48]

54. Your welcome. Great post.

[lastlib]

11. Popcorn and champagne for the show!

The celebration of his descent will be epic!

[H2O Man]

49. Yes!

I do not drink alcohol, but since pot is legal in my state, I'll be tempted to try it. Matter of fact, I may go take another hit right now!

[lastlib]

52. When the conviction was announced, I popped my first cork in 30 years.

Only took a few sips, may enjoy another glass or two when the prison door slams behind him.

'em if ya got 'em!

[BlueTexasMan]

74. At my house,

we drank the whole bottle and danced around!

[Saoirse9]

12. I am glad he's scared

and as you say he will become increasingly unhinged and increasingly crazy and disjointed in his speech. Now is the time to hit him hard, while he’s off balance. I want Biden to start mocking him every day. I know that’s not his way, but I want him to do it anyway.

I wish there was a way I could mock that cretin until he goes back under the rock he crawled out of in 2015. He’s so easy to bait I don’t get why more people aren’t doing it. And by more people I mean those in power that he would take notice of. Mostly Biden.

[H2O Man]

50. I think that

President Biden talking about the felony convictions greatly upsets the felon. I like that, very much. If there ever is a debate, I think that will be the central feature.

[Saoirse9]

79. He can try

but he really has no defense. And he gets flustered pretty easy these days. It would be epic in a debate.

But I think Biden ads should feature trump felony conviction.

[PatrickforB]

18. While Trump's uncle WAS a professor, it is important to remember that like Donald,

he was crooked as a corkscrew too. He is the one who was instrumental in telling the government that there really wasn't anything to see in the 8 chests of Nikola Tesla's notes that was of interest, and thus burying those notes to posterity. No one really knows where they are, but Tesla had an idea (the Tesla coil) that could actually draw electric energy from the earth's electromagnetic field and his vision was free electricity for all humanity from a virtually inexhaustible source.

But, hey, lots of corporate interests wouldn't want THAT, right?

[H2O Man]

57. Interesting.

I didn't know of his role. Thank you for this.

[Stuart G]

64. The Corkscrew Industry (of which I am associated with) begs to differ with you. We are not in favor of anything ....

having to do with : ."Donald Trump".....Trump was not a corkscrew, but he was a ..........."CROOK"

"TOTAL AND COMPLETE CROOK."

THAT IS IT, AND THAT IS ALL...

[PatrickforB]

70. The Trump family is crooked as a corkscrew. James Trump worked for MIT as a professor.

Yahoo News:
On January 9, 1943, two days after Nikola Tesla died destitute in a New York City hotel, the FBI called MIT professor and esteemed electrical engineer, John G. Trump, to determine if any of the belongings in the inventor’s estate—which included a purported weapon of mass destruction Tesla called the death ray—would be dangerous if they fell into enemy hands.

After a three day investigation, Trump – in fact the late uncle of Donald J. Trump – determined there was no risk.

Wikipedia:
In early 1943, two days after the death of Nikola Tesla, the Federal Bureau of Investigation ordered the Office of Alien Property Custodian to seize Tesla's belongings.[9] Trump was called in to analyze the Tesla artifacts, which were being held in government custody.[9] After a three-day investigation, Trump's report concluded that there was nothing which would constitute a hazard in unfriendly hands.

The National Academy of Engineering described John Trump as "a pioneer in the scientific, engineering and medical applications of high voltage machinery.

My comment:
Apparently, James was much, much more intelligent than Fred, Donald Trump's father. But Tesla had eight chests of documents. Eight. How could he have gone through all eight of those. After the war, he and some friends formed a corporation to do high voltage stuff. Then he went back to MIT.

I do not know where we have a difference here. I really don't. Are you suggesting I am criticizing MIT? The government? I too work in government - local government. MIT is academia. I'm confused. It is the Trump family that seems corrupt to me. Because this James - as much as Wiki's article is favorable, Tesla had eight chests of documents. It would have taken MONTHS to do justice to going through all of that.

What I am suggesting is that Trump took THREE DAYS. He was quite intelligent, immediately saw moneymaking potential in Tesla's documents, said, "Nothing to see here, folks!" and then proceeded to make millions off who knows how much information from Tesla.

See, this is my basic message: The doctrine of shareholder primacy destroys everything it touches ultimately. Tomorrow my wife and I have to fly out to another state for a child's wedding, and we are both dreading getting on a Boeing plane. This illustrates my point: Boeing's current CEO cares more for shareholder profits than about making good airplanes. We know that, even though whistle blowers have been mysteriously dying. And this is what I mean. When we put shareholder profits above worker, consumer and environmental interests, there is a real problem.

And we see those problems quite clearly in our current situation. The reason this next election will make the difference in whether we continue to have a republic or not is EXACTLY because of corporate corruption affecting our media and our federal government, with theocrat tea partiers controlling the nomination process in the GOP.

Wall Street greed and libertarian billionaires have ALWAYS been the enemy here, because it is their greed that has nearly destroyed everything this country should stand for.

Plus, where ARE Tesla's documents nowadays?

[gademocrat7]

19. Bravo, H2O Man

[H2O Man]

58. Thank you!

[babsbunny]

20. This is better than what I think

I think they (everyone involved in the planning, going back decades) have had plenty of time to plan the whole thing out....they have a plan no matter what happens. I think no matter what happens to Trump, he knows he will get away with it and will be just fine. I don't think he is worried. Anyone else think this way?

[DENVERPOPS]

31. But, he is paranoid

When he moved into the white house, I recall the Secret Service was concerned that he installed a lock on his bedroom door. And that lock could only be un-locked from the inside.......They said they would only enter the room under an all out emergency, and knock first anyway. They commented that it was the first time EVER that the Master Bedroom Door had a lock installed on it.......

[H2O Man]

59. Didn't Ivanka

have a key for after Jared went to sleep?

[DENVERPOPS]

63. LOL NC

[Warpy]

21. He will never behave properly because he can't.

He has the most extreme form of the worst personality disorder out there, one with the worst prognosis of all: no treatment is possible.

Most people who are as disordered as he is are in prison. His inherited fortune has kept him out of prison by allowing him to afford a cadre of associates whose job it was to keep him out of prison.

Still, the worst thing to happen to him, and then to us, was some hack's bright idea to star him in a heavily scripted "reality TV: show.

That have him a taste of bright lights, cameras, and fame--a massive speedball of all the drugs of abuse injected right into his brain. Without that show, he'd never have been talked into running for the presidency.

The courts can't control his behavior and neither can he. He has a mob behind him, a dangerous one. There are only two choices here: tolerate him and hope no one gets killed (magical thinking required) or isolate him, porobably under house arrest with limited visitation and no electronic devices. The latter can be done, but someone will have to get killed before they do it.

That's my sad prediction.

[DENVERPOPS]

33. He belongs in a prison, for life.

AND, not just any prison, but Colorado Super Max, cut off 100% from ANY contact with the outside world, including the rest of the prisoners.........No computer, no internet, no emails, no news, no cell phone.....Nothing, NADA.

[Warpy]

39. Naw, his penthouse in NYC will do nicely

because security will be easy to manage with keyed elevator access only.

A gilt and marble prison is still a prison. The lack of access to electronic devices will be especially hard for him to take. Low power jamming can be installed if he doesn't behave himself, annoying the hell out of other tenants, but oh well.

Right now, he's a white collar felon and unlikely to face anything but a stiff fine and probation and oh boy, is he going to howl about the terms of his probation. As I said, someone will have to get killed before he's separated from his flyink monkeys.

[DENVERPOPS]

65. You want him to suffer, am I right?

Many of his treasonous acts are worthy of a slam-dunk Death Penalty without question.

But a life sentence, in this particular prison? Supermax Prison right here in Colorado, is absolutely THE worst punishment you can inflict on a human being.

Take McVeigh, the psychopath that did the Oklahoma City Bombing. McVeigh plea bargained for life in prison, instead of the death penalty.
After six months of being in Colorado SuperMax, he asked the judge to re-instate the death penalty for him....and the Judge did just that.......
The reason he stated for that request? He found out, after only six short months, that Colorado Super Max was far worse than the death penalty....
Colorado Supermax is where only THE MOST horrific criminals ever, are incarcerated.....Those criminals imprisoned there are un-fit to be allowed to exist in ANY society, ANYWHERE....Period.....And Trump, along with all of his hundreds of henchmen, deserve only the MAXimum punishment for their actions.......

Trump would, quite literally, suffer an excruciating existence, for every hour, of every day, of every week, of every month, of every year, until he croaked.

[Warpy]

78. I want this country to get a breather

I want him out of the news cycle. I want his ugly mug offline, off the TV, off even Enquirer covers. I want his fan club to have a chance to latch onto something else equally stupid but a lot less dangerous.

And no, I don't want him isolated for the rest of his life. If he suffers for a few months or a few years, it's OK by me. Suffering in a mink and gilt palace is also fine by me, isolation is the worst thing that can happen to a narcissist and he's pissed me off for years. I just want the lazy buggers in the media to MOVE ON, and they won't do it while he's free. Having a hiatus will also allow even the fundageicals to notice his dementia is not just progressing, it's galloping along.

And no to the DP. It would turn him into a martyr for the religious crazies. Just let him fade away.

[H2O Man]

61. That would be great.

No chance of it in July, but he might well be incarcerated for the federal crimes.

[H2O Man]

60. Very good!

Thank you for this. House arrest appears possible. I think it is likely that there will be some violence coming from his cult.

[peggysue2]

22. Great post, H2O!

All this, plus the veil of dementia descending over Agent Orange will make for 'interesting' times. The True Believers will continue their cult-like behavior but the pols who have signed away their integrity and any sense of honor may begin to get skittish. But In truth? They're trapped within this horrific web of deceit and corruption, all of their own making.

The tension is building. We can see it, hear it in the desperate spinning of facts by people who know better but can't figure a way out without the subsequent retribution from Trump and his supporters/enablers.

Larry Hogan is a case in point.

We're witnessing the death throes of an organization, namely The Republican Party.

Well deserved, IMHO.

A coup de grace opportunity will come in November as Americans use their voice/vote to stop the madness forcing the MAGA movement back into the darkness from whence they came.

As for Trump?

May his ugly, deranged head explode!

[ananda]

23. Well said!

And as far as I can tell, absolutely correct
as far as Trump goes.

As for his enablers, I find that hard to predict
because, on the one hand, you have the ignorant,
stupid Magats and Christian nationalist, but...

You also have the billionaires and the extremely
corrupt SCOTUS.

IOW, the way things actually unfold might be, well,
worse evil than even Trump can do.

[Glamrock]

24. Fucking brilliant summation of what's to come!

[Sogo]

25. There's not a one of them that he doesn't have the goods on....That's why we won't see ANY "stepping back"....

"His enablers and apologists in the House and Senate will feel the growing weight of the ball & chain the felon has attached to their ankles. Some will step back, though not fully away."

[DENVERPOPS]

34. You have to know

that Putin gave him Kompromat on all of them that he had collected for years, just like he did with Trump starting in the 90's.....

[Uncle Joe]

26. I still believe *rump will melt

like the Wicked Witch of the West drenched in a bucket of Rudy Giuliani's hair dye.

Just recently *rump used the words "breaking point" as in the public being upset at him receiving long overdue justice. I believe that was just more projection reflecting his own emotional instability.

Thanks for the thread H2O Man

[Orrex]

27. Can we amend that prediction...

To have him drown in an industrial hog farm’s waste pool?

[malaise]

51. Haha

😂😂😂

[CoopersDad]

71. Works for me. Except he's drowning in a pit of his own waste now...

...which has a ring of poetic justice.

No need to engage hog farms!

[Orrex]

76. I'm ok with that as well!

[Solomon]

28. I agree and believe we will finally get our cup runneth over with schadenfreude on such a level that the world has

never seen.

People are still beating me up for saying we are finally about to witness the end of the beast.
Lot of people have lost all hope and say nothing will ever happen to the beast. Convictions, scandals, corruption, none of it matters. Nothing will ever be done about it.

I beg to differ. I think he's going down very hard.

[malaise]

30. +1,000

The end is nigh!

[Voltaire2]

29. The psychological aspects of cult sexual imaging and messaging

Is under appreciated.

As it gets closer to July 11, the hard core of his cult followers will become more excited. The christian nationalists will behave in sexually aroused ways

The homoerotic worship of the alpha male is conjoined with the transphobic fear that their object of desire, which to avoid the reality of the homoerotic phallic worship of the alpha male cult must be the fully submissive trad-wife, has a surprise penis. They are two sides of the same delusion. Notably this is an historic feature of the prior fascist movement as well.

[TSExile]

53. I think the fundagelicals are so sexually repressed...

...that all this nastiness excites them. That's the only thing I can think of.

[malaise]

55. fundagelicals

Nice😀

[TSExile]

69. I can't take credit for that...

...but I have seen it in various places.

[Talitha]

32. "watch everything the felon says and does publicly"

One thing I noticed was when he said 'the public' will not stand for him being convicted. Hell's bells it's the public who convicted him!

Delusional donny has an imaginary public, though. He recently waved to them when exiting a building (the courthouse?). A different camera angle showed the truth - he was actually waving to his awaiting motorcade.

[ancianita]

36. K&R

Thanks for this. Recommended.

[ampm]

37. Quicksand

He will try to pull everyone down with him. I can see the weight of the rope breaking

[Lonestarblue]

38. He will not have any additional stress from more court cases as right-wing judges have ensured indefinite delays.

All Trump has to do is have Republicans cheat enough for him to be re-installed in the WH and every court case goes away, even Georgia. No accountability ever and free reign in another term to commit crimes at will.

[Igel]

40. I find Trump to be less sociopath and more narcissist.

[Wild blueberry]

41. Great post!

Keep hearing Queen's Under Pressure.

Thank you.

[Martin Eden]

42. How will the felon manifest his drowning?

Unhinged rhetoric is par for his course, along with more frequent mental gaffes and incoherence.

Will we see an increase in those symptoms, or game changing behavior when the last straw he's been grasping no longer keeps him from slipping beneath the deep waters?

[live love laugh]

62. His eyes ... I have looked closely too, they're reptilian.

[Aussie105]

67. You are watching someone physically and mentally deteriorate before your eyes.

Dying, one cell at a time.
Not pretty.

I believe the medical term is 'terminal'?

[malaise]

72. Dying one cell at a time in a

prison cell

[oldsoftie]

68. He deserves prison for life, but at BEST he'll get PROBATION.

prison for life for all the OTHER shit he's done.
But people need top get realistic about "trump in prison". Its not going to happen.

[CaptainTruth]

73. Nicely written!

[Goddessartist]

75. Most excellent!

You have the christian nationalists nailed!

[BobTheSubgenius]

77. A very good an insightful post!

A fleeting thought I've had about an orange convict in an orange jumpsuit, besides a camo joke that I just can't bring to life for some reason - prison is one of the very few places where incontinence might be an asset. What potential rapist would have any interest in THAT?