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The price of war is never paid by those responsible (Original Post) hueymahl Jun 2024 OP
Old men send young men to die. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #1
So true and we've seen it up close and personal. nt MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #4
Yep, starting when I was four years old. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #5
I salute you for dealing with the stress of not knowing whether or not your father was coming home, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #6
For God's sake MCE. Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #11
Thank you for the kind words. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #13
I'll take sitting in a school quonset hut with guards and barbed wire Irish_Dem Jun 2024 #14
Putin is what happened to him and Ukrainians 🤬 Deuxcents Jun 2024 #2
And who is responsible for this Ukrainian soldier's suffering? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #3
Thank You, MCE Cha Jun 2024 #8
FUCK GD Asshole Invader of Ukraine, Vlad Putin. Cha Jun 2024 #7
Oh wow Cha, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2024 #9
Mahalo, MCE 💙 Cha Jun 2024 #10
Reparations for WWII GreenWave Jun 2024 #12

Irish_Dem

(59,727 posts)
5. Yep, starting when I was four years old.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:22 PM
Jun 2024

My best friend next door, her dad's plane went down.
The AF base commander and chaplain went to her house.

My mother had to explain what was happening.
It was the first time I realized planes came down and killed people.
And it could be my dad's plane next time.

And later I learned my US Navy uncle had died in WWII.
And I saw my dad fly to Da Nang and beyond wearing a gun on his waist.
Some dads not coming home ever again.

Of course I was just a military brat and not in harm's way.
Just around those who were.

Yes we were on remote overseas AF bases surrounded by guards and barbed wire,
but the kids felt safe.

Of course nothing like what you did. Scares me everytime I think about what
you were doing. Jebus God.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,466 posts)
6. I salute you for dealing with the stress of not knowing whether or not your father was coming home,
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:26 PM
Jun 2024

I can't even imagine what that felt like.
Compared to what emotions you went through compared to mine, I think that you were more stressed out than I ever was.
Thank you for the kind words, they mean more to me than you'll ever know.

Irish_Dem

(59,727 posts)
11. For God's sake MCE.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:42 PM
Jun 2024

There is no comparison to me just being a military brat and you doing your very dangerous military job.

I know you like to pretend what you did was not dangerous, but I am not some rookie civilian
type who believes it for one second.

I know what job you did and I know you are damn lucky and damn
skilled to be alive with all your body parts intact and not blown to bits.

As you know my WWII Navy uncle was killed giving US Navy support to the marines on land,
and my dad risked his life in WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam, giving air support to marines on the ground.

We always knew the Marines had the hardest job.





MarineCombatEngineer

(14,466 posts)
13. Thank you for the kind words.
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:48 PM
Jun 2024

Yes, we Marines did a dangerous job, but the stress wrought upon family members like yourself had to be tremendous and for that, I give all family members the credit for the stalworth shown.

Irish_Dem

(59,727 posts)
14. I'll take sitting in a school quonset hut with guards and barbed wire
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 07:06 PM
Jun 2024

sweltering in tropical heat, wondering when bad news would hit us, any day over what you did.

Yes the families had it rough sometimes.
But nothing compared to the marines.
Or active duty any branch.
And we knew it.

I loved being a USAF military kid. Surrounded by the smartest, bravest, well trained, nicest,
united people on the planet. I miss it.

You have probably noticed civilians are complex, nuanced, and difficult at times.

When I am stressed, I watch WWII US military movies.
I immediately relax and feel at home. The military jargon, uniforms, chain of command,
mission, bravery, dedication, team work, camaraderie, etc. I just feel at home.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,466 posts)
3. And who is responsible for this Ukrainian soldier's suffering?
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:13 PM
Jun 2024

To answer my own question, that would be Putin, he can withdraw his forces anytime and end this war, but no, his ego won't allow it unless it's on his terms, which are unacceptable to Ukraine and most of the world.

The vast majority of the world's governments and citizens wish this war would end also, but not on Putin's terms, we've seen the results of tyranny and its rejected.

MarineCombatEngineer

(14,466 posts)
9. Oh wow Cha,
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 05:30 PM
Jun 2024

don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.
I love reading your posts, it makes my day.

GreenWave

(9,445 posts)
12. Reparations for WWII
Thu Jun 20, 2024, 06:02 PM
Jun 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_reparations

My history professor said the USA loaned to Germany, Japan and Italy to get them back on track, but the USSR's request for a loan
'"got lost".
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