Who won tonight's debate?

[Polybius]

Who do you think won the debate?

111 votes, 4 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Biden won
	34 (31%)
	Trump won
	14 (13%)
	They both were terrible
	51 (46%)
	They both were great
	0 (0%)
	Kennedy won by not being there
	1 (1%)
	I don't know, I didn't watch it
	11 (10%)
	4 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[applegrove]

1. Trump lied and lied and lied. It was disgusting.

[Polybius]

3. So because of that, Biden automatically won?

[applegrove]

10. He beat Trump because he told the truth all along.

Not saying Biden did well. But Trump lost.

[karynnj]

22. And sneered as he did so with a smug look on his piggy face.

[marble falls]

2. That was no debate. That was a dog and pony show. No one paid attention To Joe: he just didn't "look right"...

... for shame.

[kansasobama]

8. I agree

Dems think Repubs are fair. They never are

[jmbar2]

14. Agree! A normal person talking to a sociopath is not a debate

[roamer65]

4. In my book, Biden won.

Because he answered the questions and told the truth.

I want a President who isn’t a psychopath.

[kansasobama]

5. Who decided Biden should debate today

I am disgusted with the campaign for making this decision. A debate only helps Trump and his minions who love his lies. That is what Hitlers followers do. Why are we thinking this is a fair game. To be honest, Biden did not do a good job and that compounded the issue

[Patton French]

6. True or spin?

President Biden won every point on a factual level, but apparently that doesn’t matter.

[Fearless]

13. We know that optics matter

Look at Nixon/ Kennedy.

[karynnj]

25. Trump is no Kennedy!

In the 1960s debate, Kennedy looked handsome, comfortable and witty. Nixon was not ready for TV. Kennedy was charming. Trump was an obnoxious bully. It showed in his face, his demeanor, and his voice.

[Fearless]

41. To his followers he literally is

Absurd as it is.

[CoopersDad]

7. It wasn't a debate, really. Everybody lost.

mostly voters.

The criminal should be behind bars.

[Doodley]

9. What matters is how this debate is perceived outside, how it is reported, and are any aspects going to run and run.

[Polybius]

16. True

We'll see in a few days what the polls show.

[newdayneeded]

33. I'm afraid we will

[Kaleva]

18. Yes

[Rhiagel]

11. Liars are losers. Ergo, Team Joe won.

No 2nd Debate unless there are fact-checkers on the spot.

[Fearless]

12. Putin won the debate.

[lpbk2713]

15. If people bother to do a Fact Check on Trump ...

Biden won by a landslide.

[brooklynite]

17. "won" in the context of debates is a qualitative term.

Trump "won" because he was able to moderate his craziness for the sake of the undecided voter audience.

[H2O Man]

19. Other.

[Bonx]

20. Missed it. Good to see Biden won. Why all the fuss in the headlines?

[LeftInTX]

27. You need to see and hear it. In a nutshell: We couldn't hear Biden

His voice was very low. He stuttered.

[Johonny]

21. The media.

They got the horse race and drama they needed to sell this turkey to the American people. Expect a long expensive financially lucrative election season.

Won lost, the American voter. But they've allowed this to happen to themselves.

[republianmushroom]

23. Which side your on determines what side won.

[brooklynite]

24. Nope.

I’m on Biden’s side and he lost in the context of achieving his debate goals.

[republianmushroom]

28. Yup, ask any republican who won.

They will tell you the convicted felon did. Ask any Dem who won and they will tell you Biden did.
Neither, any Dem or a republican will change there vote after this debate and an independent is still confused
as who they will vote for declaring neither "won".

[brooklynite]

30. Plenty of Democrats here who don't feel that way.

My mother doesn't feel that way.

People in my Democratic funding circle don't feel that way.

A mailing list of journalists I'm on don't feel that way.

Flash poll of viewers had 67% said Trump won. The pool certainly includes Democrats.

One things I've always done to center my political activity is to accept reality. Biden had an incredibly bad night.

[republianmushroom]

31. Nov. is a long time coming.

And is your mother going to vote for the convicted felon and are these others who think the convicted felon "won" is that enough to change their vote or will they not cast a ballot, now ?

[brooklynite]

32. Biden didn't lose any committed voters, but they weren't the audience...

He likely didn't gain any undecided or soft-D voters which he needs to supplement the base.

[republianmushroom]

36. Your mother wasn't a committed voter and soft-D voters will vote for Biden.

They are not as dumb as republicans who will vote for the convicted felon.
The choice between the two is staggering. One only has to remember what the trump presidency was like to vote Biden.

[brooklynite]

37. There are a lot of Democratic base voters I know who disagree with you about what the Soft-D voters will do.

A good number of them are here.

[republianmushroom]

38. Well like your mother they have one or two choices.

The choice is up to them. But if they think about it there is only one choice.
But then again there are some damn dumb so called Dems that may vote for the convicted felon.
Did you ask your mother who she is now going to vote for and why ? Sounds like she as these soft Dems you speak of are closet republicans.

[brooklynite]

39. OF COURSE SHE'S STILL VOTING FOR BIDEN

She was always voting for Biden. All my friends and political contacts are voting for Biden.

You're missing the point that while THEY are voting for Biden, they're all worried that OTHER people won't vote for Biden and Trump will take back the White House.

[republianmushroom]

40. They have no control over who OTHER people will vote for.

And like it posted it is a long time to Nov.

[LeftInTX]

29. I don't know who's on his debate team, but he needs some people who understand:

His stuttering, older voices and low voices.
Also Biden said too much when he responded.
Both Biden and Trump don't seem to have alot of flexibility in their speech. (It's an older age thing)
Trump used it to his advantage, by repeating garbage.
Biden stalled because he was thinking or forming the correct words. This gave time for Trump to come up with garbage retorts.
Joe was discussing his accomplishments and got taken off guard.

I think Joe's one-liners were really good. However, they weren't loud enough.
Joe needs to deliver more one-liners and less policy. He needs to KISS. He's not really "debating", when he's "debating" Trump.

Maybe Obama can help him out.

[Celerity]

42. for once we agree

[BComplex]

26. The mainstream media won. They have a full week's worth of chatter ahead of them.

The rest of us need to get to work!

[TheFarseer]

34. Sorry all

But Trump executed his strategy and Biden largely did not.

My only hope is everyone has already made up their mind.

[TexasDem69]

35. According to this debate coach they both were terrible

Trump for his lies and Biden for all the reasons discussed here today.

Overall Trump grade: F
You simply can’t lie in debates as often as Trump does if the activity is to be taken seriously.”

Overall Biden grade: F
Playing into stereotypes and criticisms, Biden had a worse night than Trump. But neither would get my vote based on this debate.

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