Honestly, there's only one plan that will work.

[GaYellowDawg]

Get the fuck in line.

What does that mean? Support President Biden without hesitation, fear, or reservation. Answer any criticism of him with a shrug, say he's had a great administration, say you want 4 more years of it, and redirect to 34 felonies, Project 2025, bungling of the pandemic, serial liar, support of dictators, authoritarianism. Say you're proud to be a Biden supporter and you're ashamed that the other party would throw their support behind a Hitler-quoting adjudicated rapist and felon, and ashamed that any media member would even consider him a legitimate candidate.

Get. The. Fuck. In. Line. There is no other solution. Swallow hard and make sure you gulp down every doubt and reservation. And if you're concerned about some kind of purity test, or "Democrats don't do that", then be sure to warm yourself with that when Project 2025 is in full swing, abortion is a capital offense, and President For Life Trump is publicly musing how it'd look if Democrats were swinging from ropes on the National Mall.

It's pathetically simple, if you'll just do it. Get. The. Fuck. In. Line. Save your concerns until after President Biden takes the oath of office for the second time.

[Think. Again.]

1. Yep, one plan...

GET OUT THE VOTE!

[Emile]

2. We are only four months away from the election. Time

to get in line and have Joe's back.

[brooklynite]

3. Let us know how you plan to convey that plan to people who aren't here.

These aren't the people you need to convince.

[GaYellowDawg]

5. Okay.

I worded the idea politely and professionally, and emailed it to every single Democratic politician who has expressed reservations about President Biden's candidacy, as well as to George Clooney and Rob Reiner.

If you have any other ideas for an ordinary citizen with ordinary means, I'm all ears. Maybe you could write your own email, too, and report back likewise.

[GaYellowDawg]

9. And also

Here's what I wrote. Feel free to emulate it and send something similar to "doubtful" representatives and senators.

Dear Representative/Senator XXXX,

I’m just an ordinary middle-class American emailing you with concerns about the Presidential race. I have seen you publicly doubt whether President Biden can win this election, and that gravely concerns me. The last time that a Democratic incumbent lost his bid for reelection was in 1980. Especially during the Iranian hostage crisis, the media ripped into President Carter on a daily basis, and that emboldened Ted Kennedy to run against President Carter. It split the party wide open, and made the election a lot easier for Reagan than it should have been.

There’s nothing to be done about the media. They have normalized Donald Trump’s criminality and complete unfitness for the Presidency, and have apparently had complete amnesia about what a disaster his Presidency actually was. Why don’t they question the Republican Party about disavowing Trump for his rambling incoherencies? Because they know they’ll be met with scorn and with deflection. In this one case, you really could take a page from their book.

I know you don’t have any doubts about President Biden’s ability to lead the country; otherwise, you’d be calling for him to resign, rather than merely withdraw from the election. Your fear is that he’s going to lose the election. It’s your public fear and doubt that are contributing to it. If you’d just said, “No big deal, he was feeling ill and had one bad debate,” laughed it off, pivoted to Donald Trump’s many lies during the debate, and brought up the stupid shark-electric boat story, and then said that Joe Biden knows you can’t wash magnetism away from magnets, or give anyone a bleach enema for COVID, things would be going a great deal better. I voted for President Biden in the primaries, and I didn’t do so in order for someone like you to rob me of my vote just because you’re having a panic attack. There are millions more like me waiting for you to unify our party behind our candidate and give us the momentum to beat the fascists in November. You could easily cite President Biden's sterling performance at the NATO meetings as the reason for your renewed confidence. and say "treating with a diverse set of foreign heads of state is a much more complex task than repeating a standardized set of lies at a virtually unmoderated debate."

Thank you for your time and attention.

[BlueCheeseAgain]

11. That's a nice letter.

[brooklynite]

12. Its a well written letter, but honestly the only person who can solve this is Biden.,

[edisdead]

27. You are so completely wrong it is sad.

No. No Biden is not the only one who can fix this and that statement absolutely stinks to me. You absolutely should know that he needs the party to help. I am absolutely gobsmacked that you would come here and say that only Biden can fix a war declared on the party and American people by the media.

That is an insanely ridiculous take.

[brooklynite]

35. True or false: Members of the Democratic House and Senate have said they aren't confident Biden can win.

Doesn't matter WHY they've come to that conclusion. If Biden doesn't have them in his corner, he's going into the General Election with an unstable coalition.

[TBF]

50. To me it matters WHY.

One doesn't need a tinfoil hat to understand what is going on & once again capital wins.

[PortTack]

42. Agree!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

30. Excellent! It's FUD (fear, uncertainty, doubt) that is putting us in danger. The GTFIL plan is good.

[soldierant]

19. Good for You

Bennet is my Senator. I emailed him this morning. I was polite. But I quoted Jasmine Crockett.

[GaYellowDawg]

20. She's a great one to quote

Jasmine Crockett is AWESOME. Brilliant, witty, dedicated, fiery, principled - we could use about a million more of her.

[edisdead]

26. Does chastising other Dems help?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

31. Yes. See Mark Warner.

[Celerity]

48. and see Nadler

[PortTack]

45. This is how...other SM and there's more of it than just DU...lots!

“The normies.” As he calls them.

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[onecaliberal]

4. K&R

[Srkdqltr]

6. We don't want no simple plans.. we need Drama and lots of it. If there is no drama we have to make it up.

Im in a strange mood tonight. DU and MSNBC have gone bat shit crazy. We can only watch Rachel , and she isn't back till Monday. If she were smart she would hide out (not really).

[relayerbob]

37. If she were smart, she'd overthrow MSNBC management

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And go on air with her allies 24/7

[Srkdqltr]

47. Good plan.

Im watching Dr.Jeff and staying away

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. Honestly, your plan isn't quite accurate

G.T.F.I.L. sounds a bit authoritarian, a bit…you know.

I see no lack of unity, nobody out of line with our clear, shared goal:

Defeat. Donald. Trump.

Just because some of the rich, famous or powerful Dems (along with many voters) don’t agree on the path to achieving that goal doesn’t mean they don’t support the goal itself.

That is “the line”.

[GaYellowDawg]

13. Well...

You have a choice. You can wrinkle your nose because you think you're getting a whiff of "authoritarianism", or you can get the real thing in full measure.

Your comment is akin to a tug-of-war team extolling the virtues of pulling in different directions, and hoping for good results.

[Fiendish Thingy]

15. Good analogy

Except nobody is advocating for pulling in different directions- they all want to defeat Trump.

The differences are who is the anchor person at the end of the rope, and perhaps what type of hand/footholds should be used.

[edisdead]

28. so who is the other Anchor person?

I have yet to hear ANYONE actually make it clear who it is they would prefer.

[Fiendish Thingy]

43. If not Biden, then TBD

Must everything be determined this instant?

[GaYellowDawg]

29. You're failing at this, badly.

If you really think that everyone's pulling in the same direction - which they're definitely not - what you're suggesting is like trying to change the anchor person out and/or the hand/footholds during the pull because the anchor person slipped a little and onlookers started shrieking to replace the anchor person.

Very creatively stupid, and a certain way to lose.

.

[Fiendish Thingy]

44. Well, if you're *certain* we would lose, then there's nothing more to discuss, I guess.

With you, anyway.

As for me, I admit I’m not certain about anything at the moment, except my resolve to defeat Trump.

[Bev54]

22. How many voters? The pols are not changing as the media wants us to believe.

The voters are behind Biden and sure voters said he is too old but they are not saying they will not vote for him. Guess what, he was old a year ago, nothing has changed check, Trump has lost more voters than Biden has.

[Fiendish Thingy]

41. Biden won by 44,000 votes in 3 states in 2020

Voter turnout will be even more critical this year.

We don’t want people staying home this year.

[Marcus IM]

8. Agree 100%.

Just like Cubans and Venezuelans and Bolivians and Brasilians stood, en mass, in support of their liberal/leftist/socialist leadership.

Like said leadership or not, they did stand behind their leaders when their nations were confronted with the same RW, corporate funded insurrectionists, with the same goal of destroying their administrative state. Very admirable, except not in the US media, the same media backing the elimination of our President/candidate.

Just so you know, I am Cuban-American.
I love my homeland and my adopted nation, and my dream is to see normalized relations between the two, as President Obama attempted.

[Alice B.]

10. I'd buy this t-shirt.

[usonian]

14. That's why they are ringing bells for any other choice.

[PortTack]

39. STOP! Ringing bells for someone else is the same as ringing bells for the gqp!

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

16. Ya, we can do all of that; but we shouldn't tell the Democratic Leaders that is what they should do, let them lead. nt

[GaYellowDawg]

18. We should be polite

But we absolutely should tell them what to do. They depend on our votes and if they're going down a track that will destroy our lives and kill our democracy then they can goddamn well fall in line.

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

21. They are our leaders. They are smart.

This is a time when we should rally around their leadership. Lets stay on the sidelines supporting Biden, while we also support our Democratic leaders in their judgments. We need to rely on them to keep our democracy safe.

[GaYellowDawg]

23. They're not acting smart.

They're panicking, and even smart people can be stupid when they panic. Joe Biden is smart, he's not panicking, and I trust him more than any of these dipshits who have been acting up, so hell no, I'm not supporting their panic. I would also ask anyone reading this exchange to not support their panic, but to do the opposite: write them and see if they can be brought out of this irrationality.

Also, damned if I'm going to just sit on the sideline and let my vote be nullified without at least writing out my objections, and frankly, your suggestion to do so is offensive.

[Bev54]

24. Remind us, who do these leaders work for again? Absolutely it is up to the voters to tell them

when they are falling down a media manufactured rabbit hole.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

33. Rally around Biden + Harris. They have the record to show their leadership.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

[edisdead]

32. I write my politicians all the time and tell them what they should do.

What are you talking about that we shouldn’t tell them what we think they should do? We do that in letters, and we do that at the polls. What kind of democracy are you pushing that says the voters shouldn’t have a say in what they think a politician should do?

[DontBelieveEastisEas]

34. There is something different about this time. We should stay calm and supportive of all Democratic Leaders IMO nt

[ancianita]

17. AMEN. UNITY. Unity is not uniformity. It's one collective of Big Tent OF Democrats.

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WE, different as we are, are the real image of the "United" States of America.

[ms liberty]

25. Exactly. Get in line and support Biden/Harris. Go on offense; our enemy is the GOP

And somebody remember that if the ticket wins and Joe needed to step down for health reasons then we automatically get Kamala. When I vote for a POTUS, it's with the knowledge that the VP could take over. It's not worship of Biden that is making me a harda** on him topping the ticket (although he's been a favorite of mine for 30+ years) nor is it denial, it's that Kamala could be POTUS was baked into the decision when I voted for him in 2020 and in my primary this year.

[IbogaProject]

36. The time for this was awhile ago

The whole primary season came and went without this issue getting traction. Now that some Epstein files dropped which don't paint DJT favorably now the media is all up on Joe being old instead of covering DJT likely being a rapist of underage girls or at best willing to be adjacent to it. I saw the clip today from The View comparing both candidate's speeches and the contrast was dramatic. I will admit I wasn't a fan of Joe in 2020 but after 2016 I was very willing to support and more importantly vote for him.

[PortTack]

38. Well stated..thank you!

[Cuthbert Allgood]

40. That is horrible persuasion.

So people can't have concerns? They can't vote for Biden because they know Trump is horrible while not wanting Biden? They HAVE to want Biden. Good luck with that. I wanted someone else 4 years ago, but I voted for Biden. I'll do it again. But sweet fucking Jesus Christ, get the fuck in line isn't going to win people over.

[fishwax]

46. I don't think it's necessary to support anyone "without hesitation, fear, or reservation," but I like much of the rest

of the ideas here, and certainly everything else in that second paragraph.

I mean, for those so inclined to suppress all fear, hesitation, reservation, etc., then by all means go for it. But there is a productive range of such emotions somewhere between "suppress it all" and the sort of panic we're seeing now.

[TheKentuckian]

49. Very fiery and passionate but disregards the problem

of folks thinking the line is to Davey Jones' locker not a second Inauguration and preferring a shot at a line that isn't seen as a death march.

The target audience probably would just as adamantly tell you that the only shot is getting the fuck out of the line.

Both in and out of line are harrowing as can be to me but the trending of the line sucks ass and the proponents to me won't be realistic about Biden having a fundamental role in his own campaign other than existing which I think is absolutely mularkey which undermines the whole line of argument.

Add in the all information is wrong/propaganda/lies/irrelevant, hell or highwater with a heaping helping of "Yer yella" stuff and the points just seem hollow and blustery more than sound and reasoned counsel

Not that out of line has any plan to quickly form another one really, which puts a deep pit in the belly but at least it seems like that bunch isn't impervious to new data and would be happy to jump back in line with gusto if it didn't look like the queue to the slaughter.

Biden has been more vigorous which is encouraging.

The campaign's explanations for anything tend to be worse than the problem they are excusing and the strategies seem neither wise nor bold which is unsettling.

Too much attrition in communications an issue with less skilled replacements?

I just don't buy the Everything Is Awesome with this campaign stuff, it is toxic to the credibility of the line.

It isn't ideological or personal.
The "bedwetters" are the ones closest to Biden politically.

My read increasingly is that people's internals are in the gutter and it is for reasons out of their control and that money won't fix.

The top of the ticket is dragging them down and they can be confident that if their districts and states are off the table then there is no path for Biden anyway so slim kicks the shit out of none. EJECT! EJECT!!!

Meanwhile, the folks on the ground in safer seats and states are ridin' so their pols can keep really cool heads and get the street cred for hanging tough either way.
No one is going to be punished politically for supporting the President even if goes to shit.

Then if Biden pulls it out the left is ascendant and the "centrists" are on the outs and getting primaried if they happen not to get wiped out in the process.

[WheelWalker]

51. That's the ticket. Get in line. Power to the people, right on!