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cilla4progress

(25,981 posts)
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:15 AM Jul 2024

I just read two WAPO articles on Biden, and both

insinuated or said that he is not popular with Dems. Then I read the first batch of comments for each - only a handful, so maybe anecdotal, but ALL COMMENTS CALLED BS AND STRONGLY SUPPORTED JOE!!

WTF????!

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I just read two WAPO articles on Biden, and both (Original Post) cilla4progress Jul 2024 OP
The M$M is trying to push a false narrative over on us Blue Owl Jul 2024 #1
"YES, JOE WILL DEMOLISH TRUMP." Come election eve Joe will get 62 per cent or more.. Trump will be a sore looser. Stuart G Jul 2024 #4
Biden is not Bill Clinton and Biden is not Bernie Sanders. lapfog_1 Jul 2024 #2
The people are still with Biden, it's the elected Democrats Qutzupalotl Jul 2024 #3
They need to get hold of themselves cilla4progress Jul 2024 #5
This is my fear, as well as other bed wetters' fear... SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2024 #15
tHESE 6 WORDS TELL THE WHOLE STORY.."The people are still with Biden" Stuart G Jul 2024 #7
THIS!! 👆 InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2024 #10
Call your Dems in Congress. Tell them how you feel. BadgerMom Jul 2024 #11
None of his naysayers could have listened to him tonight and still claim GoodRaisin Jul 2024 #6
JOE BIDEN HAS CLASS..... TRUMP IS A STUPID ASS.....!!!! Stuart G Jul 2024 #8
Music, maestro! Battle Hymn of Joe Biden usonian Jul 2024 #9
There's a big, big difference between DC-based Democrats and regular ones like us.... Mark.b Jul 2024 #12
REPORT FINDS BIDEN DEBATE CRISIS IS A BOGUS MEDIA CREATION. Read the evidence Ford_Prefect Jul 2024 #13
Maybe you should stop reading the post and the times enemies of the truth awesomerwb1 Jul 2024 #14
While I agree with most of the posts johnnyfins Jul 2024 #16
they mistake not having a cult to mean not having support Skittles Jul 2024 #17

Blue Owl

(54,921 posts)
1. The M$M is trying to push a false narrative over on us
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:23 AM
Jul 2024

They know Joe will demolish tRump so they are trying to sabotage his campaign from within, and there seems to be just enough spineless Democrats to do their dirty work.

STAY IN THE RACE JOE, DONT LISTEN TO THEM.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
4. "YES, JOE WILL DEMOLISH TRUMP." Come election eve Joe will get 62 per cent or more.. Trump will be a sore looser.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:38 AM
Jul 2024

And after this election....Donald Trump will be past .. ".HISTORY: ...
MSM wants a close election so it can sell time to all payers. If Joe gets 65% right from the closing of the east cost, NO MSM..
BECAUSE IT IS OVER WITH EAST COST GETTING 65% OF THE VOTE................................................

YES JOE WILL GET 65% OF THE VOTE.................YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST...nOW IT IS FRIDAY JULY 12.....TRUMP WILL BE A LOOSER FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE....HE IS A LOOSER NOW AND HE WILL BE FOREVER MORE...

lapfog_1

(30,233 posts)
2. Biden is not Bill Clinton and Biden is not Bernie Sanders.
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:28 AM
Jul 2024

he falls into the "center left" part of the political spectrum. I've always been a fan of this political thought... but most Democrats I think fall into one of the other camps. I think if Barack had not picked him to be VP and if Hilary hadn't lost to Trump and if Clyburn hadn't pulled his ass out of the fire in 2020... we would have never known how good of a President he could be.

Qutzupalotl

(15,161 posts)
3. The people are still with Biden, it's the elected Democrats
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:31 AM
Jul 2024

who are panicking. They're major figures, and some are talking to the media, which feeds the doom loop narrative. And it's all for no reason, because Biden won't lose.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,739 posts)
15. This is my fear, as well as other bed wetters' fear...
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 02:11 AM
Jul 2024

That it could get worse. And there is only so much time to ward off hungry fascists. August 19th - 22nd. He's being unfairly subjected to scrutiny which no other candidate would be. Somehow Reagan skated to reelection with Alzheimer's.

It is all so unfair.

Reagan the "former president "may have shown signs of Alzheimer's disease as early as three years into his first term."

No complaints. No biggy. So unfair. That's Capitalism.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/side-effects/201101/when-did-reagans-first-signs-alzheimers-appear

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
7. tHESE 6 WORDS TELL THE WHOLE STORY.."The people are still with Biden"
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:42 AM
Jul 2024

TRUMP WILL GO DOWN....
.........LIKE A STUPID CLOWN.

GoodRaisin

(9,638 posts)
6. None of his naysayers could have listened to him tonight and still claim
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 12:41 AM
Jul 2024

with any credibility he can’t do his job because of the debate. Not that they won’t try.

Mark.b

(36 posts)
12. There's a big, big difference between DC-based Democrats and regular ones like us....
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:22 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Fri Jul 12, 2024, 08:05 AM - Edit history (1)

WAPO and the MSM think that whatever pols in DC think goes. They’re in a bubble. Joe has tried to get to Delaware as much as he could over the years. I dont think of him as DC. The DC bubble folks want one of their own or, at least, one outside the bubble who they know will quickly fall in and quickly loathe where they came from.

Regular folks are like Biden. Bureaucrats and politicians in DC are mentally warped. They eat, sleep, and drink politics.

DC does something to folks, and it’s not good. And it’s too bad too many of us see DC as the fount of all solutions. I often catch myself putting the place on a pedestal.

In my dreams, when I’m inaugurated as President, I’m inaugurated as President in some place like Kansas City, Denver, or Lubbock. I might even set up my office someplace like Atlanta or Cleveland.

Joe should do his next swearing in Wilmington. If nothing else, it would probably annoy John Roberts! I’m sure there are plenty of jurists who could swear Joe in!

Ford_Prefect

(8,216 posts)
13. REPORT FINDS BIDEN DEBATE CRISIS IS A BOGUS MEDIA CREATION. Read the evidence
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 01:43 AM
Jul 2024
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219131688
New Report Finds No Significant Change in Voter Preferences After First US Presidential Debate
Despite the flurry of post-debate headlines and statements from politicians and pundits, a new survey from the nonpartisan Civic Health and Institutions Project (CHIP50) finds little evidence that the first presidential debate between President Biden and former President Trump meaningfully shifted voter preferences.

President Biden’s performance during the first 2024 presidential debate on June 27 prompted several prominent Democrats to call for Biden to drop out of the race, and Biden’s electability has since dominated the news cycle. Coverage of post-debate election polls has factored heavily in op-eds and network news roundtables, furthering the media’s fixation on Biden’s viability as a candidate.

Unlike the cross-sectional surveys circulating in the news, however, the researchers behind the CHIP50 report analyzed survey data taken in April/May on candidate choice, and compared it to survey responses from the same individuals after the June 27 debate, reducing the likelihood of error due to differences in pre- and post-debate samples. They found no substantial change in candidate preference for these voters before and after the debate.


The Shorenstein Center on Media, Politics and Public Policy is a Harvard Kennedy School research center dedicated to exploring and illuminating the intersection of press, politics and public policy in theory and practice. The Center strives to bridge the gap between journalists and scholars, and between them and the public.

https://shorensteincenter.org/new-report-finds-no-significant-change-voter-preferences-first-us-presidential-debate/

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https://www.politicususa.com/2024/07/10/debate-crissi-report-bogus.html

Democrats who are calling for Biden’s removal are playing into a crisis that the media created. There is no statistical support for the idea that voters have left Biden or that there is an urgent need for Democrats to replace their nominee. The Biden debate crisis appears to be a media construct that panicked Democratic elites have played into. President Biden is doing a better job than Donald Trump of holding on to his supporters.

The dumbest thing that Democrats could do would be to remove the candidate that their voters want.

Indications are growing that Democrats are not in trouble but that the polls and the media are getting this election wrong.



Original Report from CHIP50
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/s32r38vj3sct3kkrijoyw/CHIP50-REPORT-105-DEBATE-2024.pdf?rlkey=nq301dg3j6bdqt42o67eo74nb&e=3&dl=0

johnnyfins

(1,485 posts)
16. While I agree with most of the posts
Fri Jul 12, 2024, 03:20 AM
Jul 2024

On this thread, it really boils down to one thing. Money. This has everything to do with tax cuts or no tax cuts. Like I have said numerous times, Dems get the same tax cuts that Repugs get.

They ALL (wealthy dems and repugs) know they will lose TSF tax cuts if and when Joe wins. The rest is just a giant game.

Why else would there be such a horseshit media blitz because of a bad debate performance?

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