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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs all this a sophisticated smear campaign to take down Biden?
Is this what Putin wants? For the Democratic Party to be in turmoil? For seeds of doubt about Biden being planted into every bit of information that goes online? While Trump's numerous and catastrophic failings are almost unnoticed or unmentioned?
flying_wahini
(8,044 posts)jpug
(90 posts)Best way to get Dump back in is defeat the best chance we got to defeat him.
Pootin is playing cheese.
Democratic elites are playing checkers.
Deek1935
(1,055 posts)lees1975
(6,163 posts)Absolutely.
maxsolomon
(35,452 posts)I probably have this wrong, but it started when Biden brushed off Arthur Sulzberger's interview request.
Then the debate (why was there even a debate then?), then the Hollywood fundraiser where West Coast money got an unvarnished look at Biden in the flesh, then the panic set in when the internal swing-state polls came back.
Of course, Clooney's Op-Ed was the nail in the coffin. That's Anti-Clooney
TwilightZone
(28,834 posts)I think leadership is looking at internal swing state polls and panicking, and that's giving the donors pause. If that's the case, the debate was just an excuse to start the conversation. I'm not sure there's much more to it than that.
We often look for a complicated or convoluted answer when the most obvious is sometimes the real deal.
Autumn
(46,820 posts)planj07
(37 posts)I think Biden has been a damn good president and if he seemed to be doing well cognitively and up in the polls there would not be a push for him to step aside.
Whats most important is to have a candidate best equipped to defeat Donald Trump and the MAGA fascists. If that person is not Joe Biden, which polls seem to indicate, a change must be made.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,166 posts)Indicate Biden is winning
mopinko
(72,051 posts)it doesnt hurt that some dems r gonna loose their seats over this nonsense.
NotASurfer
(2,331 posts)Too tempting for the anti-US world to resist
flamingdem
(39,982 posts)Especially
CNN
Axios
Politco
MSNBC sometimes
Elessar Zappa
(16,223 posts)I dont believe its anything nefarious on the part of Democratic leaders. Its just (in my mind unjustified) panic that he cant win.
edisdead
(3,359 posts)We KNOW that. several large money donors have said so.
edisdead
(3,359 posts)Blue Owl
(55,008 posts)They know tRump can't win on his own, so destroying the Democrats from the inside gets the dirty work done for them.
intheflow
(29,117 posts)I dont know what the fuck drugs these people are on, but ffs, thats Resisting Tyranny 101. The People, united, will never be defeated. Politicians, schmoozing wealthy donors, are subverting democracy itself. Its a shame we have to split our attention from Project 2025 and Trumps crimes to debate if our legally elected and incumbent candidate should quit.
Let me say that again for the people in the cheap seats:
ALL CHAOS HELPS TRUMP!
Staying the course is the ONLY way to win this.