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NameAlreadyTaken

(1,682 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:36 PM Jul 2024

Is all this a sophisticated smear campaign to take down Biden?

Is this what Putin wants? For the Democratic Party to be in turmoil? For seeds of doubt about Biden being planted into every bit of information that goes online? While Trump's numerous and catastrophic failings are almost unnoticed or unmentioned?

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Is all this a sophisticated smear campaign to take down Biden? (Original Post) NameAlreadyTaken Jul 2024 OP
Sure looks like it to me. flying_wahini Jul 2024 #1
Pootin wants Dump back in jpug Jul 2024 #2
Cheese? rzemanfl Jul 2024 #6
Yup. Political fucking SUICIDE! It's unreal. Deek1935 Jul 2024 #3
Yes, exactly. lees1975 Jul 2024 #4
Is it coordinated by Putin? I doubt that. maxsolomon Jul 2024 #5
I don't think it's that complicated. TwilightZone Jul 2024 #7
No. Our Democratic leaders would never allow something like that. nt Autumn Jul 2024 #8
No it is simply the facts planj07 Jul 2024 #9
Polls seem to indicate LiberaBlueDem Jul 2024 #17
it's our own oligarchs. they're cutting off the money to electeds if they dont get on board. mopinko Jul 2024 #10
I don't doubt there's some amplification going on NotASurfer Jul 2024 #11
Seems more to be wealthy Silicon Valley Bros and the MSM flamingdem Jul 2024 #12
While bad actors are certainly taking advantage of the situation, Elessar Zappa Jul 2024 #13
It IS donor pressure edisdead Jul 2024 #16
I think it is pretty obvious. edisdead Jul 2024 #14
Absofuckinglutely Blue Owl Jul 2024 #15
All chaos helps Trump at this point. intheflow Jul 2024 #18
☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️ PortTack Jul 2024 #19
 

jpug

(90 posts)
2. Pootin wants Dump back in
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:37 PM
Jul 2024

Best way to get Dump back in is defeat the best chance we got to defeat him.

Pootin is playing cheese.

Democratic elites are playing checkers.

maxsolomon

(35,452 posts)
5. Is it coordinated by Putin? I doubt that.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:41 PM
Jul 2024

I probably have this wrong, but it started when Biden brushed off Arthur Sulzberger's interview request.

Then the debate (why was there even a debate then?), then the Hollywood fundraiser where West Coast money got an unvarnished look at Biden in the flesh, then the panic set in when the internal swing-state polls came back.

Of course, Clooney's Op-Ed was the nail in the coffin. That's Anti-Clooney

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
7. I don't think it's that complicated.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:43 PM
Jul 2024

I think leadership is looking at internal swing state polls and panicking, and that's giving the donors pause. If that's the case, the debate was just an excuse to start the conversation. I'm not sure there's much more to it than that.

We often look for a complicated or convoluted answer when the most obvious is sometimes the real deal.

planj07

(37 posts)
9. No it is simply the facts
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:47 PM
Jul 2024

I think Biden has been a damn good president and if he seemed to be doing well cognitively and up in the polls there would not be a push for him to step aside.

What’s most important is to have a candidate best equipped to defeat Donald Trump and the MAGA fascists. If that person is not Joe Biden, which polls seem to indicate, a change must be made.

mopinko

(72,051 posts)
10. it's our own oligarchs. they're cutting off the money to electeds if they dont get on board.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:51 PM
Jul 2024

it doesnt hurt that some dems r gonna loose their seats over this nonsense.

flamingdem

(39,982 posts)
12. Seems more to be wealthy Silicon Valley Bros and the MSM
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:57 PM
Jul 2024

Especially

CNN
Axios
Politco

MSNBC sometimes

Elessar Zappa

(16,223 posts)
13. While bad actors are certainly taking advantage of the situation,
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:57 PM
Jul 2024

I don’t believe it’s anything nefarious on the part of Democratic leaders. It’s just (in my mind unjustified) panic that he can’t win.

Blue Owl

(55,008 posts)
15. Absofuckinglutely
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 02:59 PM
Jul 2024

They know tRump can't win on his own, so destroying the Democrats from the inside gets the dirty work done for them.

intheflow

(29,117 posts)
18. All chaos helps Trump at this point.
Thu Jul 18, 2024, 03:40 PM
Jul 2024

I don’t know what the fuck drugs these people are on, but ffs, that’s Resisting Tyranny 101. The People, united, will never be defeated. Politicians, schmoozing wealthy donors, are subverting democracy itself. It’s a shame we have to split our attention from Project 2025 and Trump’s crimes to debate if our legally elected and incumbent candidate should quit.

Let me say that again for the people in the cheap seats:
ALL CHAOS HELPS TRUMP!
Staying the course is the ONLY way to win this.

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