I'm sure there's a plan, but I'm worried about countering the cadre of election deniers now sitting as . . . .

[Stinky The Clown]

. . . . election officials in important states. If the MAGAe votes are not certified it goes to the courts or House, both of which are pretty much centrally controlled by MAGA. This goes down to the county level.

What is our counter to that?

[pat_k]

1. Election Protection orgs -- give time or money

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Can just mailing list here https://www.democracydefenseproject.org

Here are some other worthy organizations working to combat suppression and other nefarious activity.

https://www.fairfight.com/

https://allvotingislocal.org/
Efforts focused in Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin

https://866ourvote.org/
Election Protection Administered by the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law.
See in your state drop down here: https://866ourvote.org/partner/national-bar-association/

Rolling Stone article:
These Swing State Election Officials Are Pro-Trump Election Deniers
At least 70 pro-Trump conspiracists are election officials in key battleground counties — and they are poised to make a giant mess on Election Day

And film:
Suppressed and Sabotaged: The Fight to Vote
It's from 2020, but worth a look if you missed it (and the list of partners at the bottom of the main page includes a number of other organizations doing work to combat suppression).

[Beetwasher.]

2. There is a Plan-They Planned the Harris Roll Out

They got this. We may not be privy to everything, but I have more faith than I have had in some time. They really know what they’re doing and exactly what’s at stake.

[pat_k]

3. Democracy Docket

Is worth following to get a run down of voting rights cases in various states

?si=cjIA_OtvuyeO3q0z

[dobleremolque]

4. I'd like to think that the situation of Cochise County Arizona's two supervisors who F.A.'d with

refusal to certify the 2022 election results, and the current F.O. in which they find themselves facing felony criminal charges of election interference, will serve as some kind of deterrent. Their trials start in Phoenix on Aug. 15. It took a state grand jury to indict them. Their county attorney warned them not to do it, said the county would not pay for their defense costs if they did it, so all the necessary lawyering is being paid for out of their own pockets. And it is expensive.

During all the fucking around in Cochise County, there was some speculation about going ahead and certifying the state results without Cochise County, and not counting those votes. I don't remember whether that gained any traction. But I doubt it would have flown legally.

There need to be some statutes amended to clearly and unambiguously state that in Arizona, election certification is a "ministerial" duty and that the supervisors are not endowed with any investigative role, power, or authority over perceived, imagined, or even actual irregularities. But those are fixes that are still to come once saner heads control the Arizona legislature.

Other than that, like you, I'm sure something is in place. But I don't know what it could be. We aren't quite to the world depicted in the movie Minority Report, where people are arrested for crimes they were predicted to commit. And I don't think we really want to go there.

[Amaryllis]

5. There are a lot of Dems working on this. They arent going to tell us everthing though. It's like when Biden was asked

what they are doing about the prisoner who has not been released yet and he wouldnt say.

[Silent Type]

6. We've got our own election and poll watchers, and some good attorneys. If we vote, we'll win again.