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Wanderlust988

(589 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:13 PM Aug 2024

Chuck Todd just said that the Harris campaign will make a play for Florida

Something unimaginable a few weeks ago. But they have the money to do it. I didn't realize Biden only lost FL by 3%. Crazy to think about it.

For some reason, I think Ohio might be more gettable than Florida. What do you all think?

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Chuck Todd just said that the Harris campaign will make a play for Florida (Original Post) Wanderlust988 Aug 2024 OP
I sure wish they would throw some support behind Colin Allred (running against Ted Cruz) flying_wahini Aug 2024 #1
Yes, I want them to come to Texas preferably DFW MagickMuffin Aug 2024 #14
I wish her team would consider Texas DUgosh Aug 2024 #2
I would prefer them to spend money in Montana and Ohio dsc Aug 2024 #3
I have modestly contributed to both incumbents' campaigns (I'm not a resident) Dock_Yard Aug 2024 #8
Jordan's seat is a lost cause sadly dsc Aug 2024 #15
Down by 5 in FL VS down by 10 in OH & down by 23 in MT krawhitham Aug 2024 #19
that is why I said spend it on Brown (Ohio) and Tester (MT) dsc Aug 2024 #24
We can do both approaches. Sky Jewels Aug 2024 #35
I believe both can be taken. Vance is making himself look like and idiot to his constituents, so Ohio is in play IMHO. OLDMDDEM Aug 2024 #4
It's not, I live here, it's really not krawhitham Aug 2024 #20
Too bad. I hope that isn't true statewide. OLDMDDEM Aug 2024 #22
When I lived there I NEVER put signs in my yard obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #31
Fla has marijuana and abortion on the ballot. 33taw Aug 2024 #5
I would love to see Florida become blue again. rzemanfl Aug 2024 #13
I hope all Florida votes will be counted this time, unlike 2000! GoreWon2000 Aug 2024 #17
Even if Harris doesn't win the state whopis01 Aug 2024 #21
No money for FL presidential campaign! speak easy Aug 2024 #6
With pot and abortion rights on the ballot, Qutzupalotl Aug 2024 #7
I think this will help Debbie Mucarsel-Powell and Whitney Fox, and teh amendments obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #30
DeSantis and Crazy republican antics help up and down the ballot in FL...basically a test run of Project 2025 JT45242 Aug 2024 #9
There was talk when Biden was the nominee TlalocW Aug 2024 #10
Either Florida Ohio or Texas Im in heaven Tribetime Aug 2024 #11
North Carolina bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #12
Can't wait to plant a Harris-Walz campaign sign in front of my house Fritz Walter Aug 2024 #16
Judging by yard signs, Ohio is NOT more gettable. It's a 30-1 ratio around Cincinnati, yeah it's that bad krawhitham Aug 2024 #18
Chuck is saying something that was obvious when the stories on The Villages came out. Tetrachloride Aug 2024 #23
Double dipping. It's also about the Senate race JCMach1 Aug 2024 #25
Yup, Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, Whitney Fox, and the amendments are very important obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #28
I'll believe it when I see it. RandySF Aug 2024 #26
Florida is worth the investment appmanga Aug 2024 #37
They may hink it will at least help Debbie Mucarsel-Powell and Whitney Fox win obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #27
Fine but I'll be happy with NC, PA, WI & MI. Perfectly happy. nt oldsoftie Aug 2024 #29
same obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #32
New era in yard signs arlyellowdog Aug 2024 #33
EXACTLY senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #36
I'll take Chuck Toad's predictions with a comradebillyboy Aug 2024 #34

flying_wahini

(8,043 posts)
1. I sure wish they would throw some support behind Colin Allred (running against Ted Cruz)
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:15 PM
Aug 2024

Texas is so close but never much attention.

MagickMuffin

(17,201 posts)
14. Yes, I want them to come to Texas preferably DFW
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:21 PM
Aug 2024


I think it would have a tremendous impact.

Harris Walz campaign rally featuring Rep Colin Allred running for Senate and let’s help him defeat Ted Cruz!



dsc

(52,694 posts)
3. I would prefer them to spend money in Montana and Ohio
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:16 PM
Aug 2024

not on themselves but on Tester and Brown. We need to win both of those seats to hold the Senate and both will be hard. Montana, in particular, is a bargain. Assuming Florida would cost $20 million to make competitive spend $10 million in each of those two states.

Dock_Yard

(162 posts)
8. I have modestly contributed to both incumbents' campaigns (I'm not a resident)
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:20 PM
Aug 2024

And if there was ANY WAY to defeat Gym Jordan, I'd go there too.

But ... severe gerrymandering pretty much guarantees he keeps his seat ... Ohio legislature needs to be changed over to majority Dem for districts to be redrawn properly, that will take years.

dsc

(52,694 posts)
24. that is why I said spend it on Brown (Ohio) and Tester (MT)
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:53 PM
Aug 2024

Carpet bomb MT with ads for Tester.

OLDMDDEM

(2,154 posts)
4. I believe both can be taken. Vance is making himself look like and idiot to his constituents, so Ohio is in play IMHO.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:17 PM
Aug 2024

Florida may be in play as Dumpy is also making himself look like he really is, a full blown buffoon.

krawhitham

(4,907 posts)
20. It's not, I live here, it's really not
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:51 PM
Aug 2024

A lot more trump yard signs than in 2020, and were 70+ days out

I drive the same 20 minute stretch almost every day, in 2020 I saw 12 trump signs and 5 Biden signs right before the election. This year it's 35 trump signs, and 1 Harris sign.


And yes I keep track of this type of thing (spreadsheet and all), I find it nice that maga announces where the racist live

obamanut2012

(27,884 posts)
31. When I lived there I NEVER put signs in my yard
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:03 PM
Aug 2024

Too many MAGAT older Boomers and Silent Generation folks in my neighborhood. Signs mean nothing.

Hell, I live in a good blue city in CA now and still won't put out political signs.

whopis01

(3,748 posts)
21. Even if Harris doesn't win the state
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:52 PM
Aug 2024

Her making a good showing, along with the increased turnout for the ballot amendments, will benefit other Democratic candidates running for office in Florida.

speak easy

(10,704 posts)
6. No money for FL presidential campaign!
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:19 PM
Aug 2024

Spend up big down the FL ticket, and the tight battleground races. If we win Florida, it will be a bonus like 2008, and 2012.

Qutzupalotl

(15,161 posts)
7. With pot and abortion rights on the ballot,
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:19 PM
Aug 2024

Florida is definitely in play. May Rick Scott go down to defeat, and take useless Ted Cruz of Texas with him!

JT45242

(2,995 posts)
9. DeSantis and Crazy republican antics help up and down the ballot in FL...basically a test run of Project 2025
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:20 PM
Aug 2024

Fire public servants and rep[ace with loyalists cronies -- check

Dismantle public education -- check

Go after reproductve rights -- check
Dehumanize LGBTQ+ -- check

DeSantis fights with Disney, librarians, New College, etc. should be portrayed as the R party test run for P2025 and how disastrous it will be for people.

TlalocW

(15,632 posts)
10. There was talk when Biden was the nominee
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:20 PM
Aug 2024

About opening a Florida office. I don't know if he did, but he was mocked for it. I thought it was a good idea though because even then the campaign had way more money than Trump and could spare some in order to make Trump respond in kind, spreading his smallee reserves thinner over swing states.

Now the numbers and enthusiasm are even better for Harris so that will probably happen.

bucolic_frolic

(47,615 posts)
12. North Carolina
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:21 PM
Aug 2024

There's such chicanery in GA I'm not sure it's worth the effort. Best to pick off another

Fritz Walter

(4,349 posts)
16. Can't wait to plant a Harris-Walz campaign sign in front of my house
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:32 PM
Aug 2024

I figure that -- after the convention -- the local Democratic Party office will make them available. In abundance! I want to be the first on my block!

Oh, and if there's a "Mind Your Own Damn Business" yard sign, I'd like to add that too, to counter the "Vote No on 4" supporters in my 'hood. (Amendment 4 would protect women's -- and girls' -- reproductive freedom statewide).

krawhitham

(4,907 posts)
18. Judging by yard signs, Ohio is NOT more gettable. It's a 30-1 ratio around Cincinnati, yeah it's that bad
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:37 PM
Aug 2024

No we most likely will not get FL either, but that is not really the goal. The goal is to make trump spend a lot of money holding on the FL

Tetrachloride

(8,486 posts)
23. Chuck is saying something that was obvious when the stories on The Villages came out.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:53 PM
Aug 2024

Let the foreshadowing sink in. Then the announcement. "They're coming."

JCMach1

(28,148 posts)
25. Double dipping. It's also about the Senate race
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:56 PM
Aug 2024

And a handful of House races that can tip the House back.

With abortion on the ballot and the Mass Deportation NOW signs, there is absolutely a chance to take FL by 1 or 2%.

obamanut2012

(27,884 posts)
28. Yup, Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, Whitney Fox, and the amendments are very important
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:59 PM
Aug 2024

And, helping Nikki Fried jumpstart the Dems in FL. Loved seeing her at the Roll Call.

appmanga

(971 posts)
37. Florida is worth the investment
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:18 PM
Aug 2024

The ballot amendments coupled with Rick Scott being more unpopular than Ted Cruz AND typhoid makes Florida a worthy play. The Latino community in and around Orlando is much different than the one in Miami; each requires different messaging, but both require that you be present.

obamanut2012

(27,884 posts)
27. They may hink it will at least help Debbie Mucarsel-Powell and Whitney Fox win
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:58 PM
Aug 2024

And help boost Nikki Fried as the FL Dem head (she is doing her best there), and get the abortion and weed amendments passed.

I say it depends. I don't think Harris can flip it blue, but maybe they can do the above and help us in the Senate and House. I think NC is more flippable -- Biden lost NC by 1.2%.

arlyellowdog

(1,429 posts)
33. New era in yard signs
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:07 PM
Aug 2024

By this time in 2008, there was an Obama yard sign on every house and car in my deep blue community. I don’t see as many Harris, but the excitement and commitment is just as deep. But, even here, Democrats are nervous about yard signs and bumper stickers. What has changed? The scary crazy of Trumpers who will cut you off or damage your house.

senseandsensibility

(20,398 posts)
36. EXACTLY
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:14 PM
Aug 2024

I see the same thing in my deep blue area. I'm sure it's because of what you describe. Sad and frustrating.

comradebillyboy

(10,539 posts)
34. I'll take Chuck Toad's predictions with a
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:07 PM
Aug 2024

grain of salt. Last I heard the Fla Democratic Party was in shambles and has been for several years now. That might change but I wouldn't bet the bank on it.

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