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Black Truck Driver Javion Magee Passing Through Henderson, NC, Found Hanging; Police Deny Family Access to Body (Original Post) Swede Sep 2024 OP
Local story link (Trigger warning): Dennis Donovan Sep 2024 #1
Taking this at (horrific) face value, sounds like someone should try to get a leading activist involved (lawyer Crump?) hlthe2b Sep 2024 #2
Ben Crump Was The First Name I Thought Of, Too (nt) ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #7
Garland? ...I mean, he's the head of doj .. uponit7771 Sep 2024 #22
Lynching in NC no_hypocrisy Sep 2024 #3
I don't see how they can keep the family from seeing him Bayard Sep 2024 #4
It would be embarrassing if he... dchill Sep 2024 #14
that is so close to where I live Coexist Sep 2024 #5
I watched and listened to the video.... Dan Sep 2024 #6
Yes, it's amazing how many defensive wounds you can give yourself during a suicide. bluesbassman Sep 2024 #9
Henderson NC is Vance County MyMission Sep 2024 #8
Here is another news story about it. Emile Sep 2024 #10
Not found hanging, found with his back to a tree with a rope around his neck ffr Sep 2024 #11
Thanks. I thought the sheriff's statement was pretty weird. Susan Calvin Sep 2024 #16
oh OK everything's FINE then. Volaris Sep 2024 #23
WTF! Insanity LymphocyteLover Sep 2024 #29
Ok, so I wonder what happened to him? yardwork Sep 2024 #32
Just a clarification: he was not found hanging obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #12
He was seen buying the rope that was found around his neck hack89 Sep 2024 #13
That does kind of sound like how Robin Williams did it. Susan Calvin Sep 2024 #18
Ropes don't have to be "hanging" or even have a noose for there to be a lynching John Shaft Sep 2024 #26
I understand that hack89 Sep 2024 #27
It isn't uncommon for truck drivers to purchase cordage John Shaft Sep 2024 #28
Could be a crime of opportunity ecstatic Sep 2024 #36
There needs to be a full investigation ecstatic Sep 2024 #35
We all know damned well this is a Klan message to intimidate black voters. PatrickforB Sep 2024 #15
At this point we know no such thing. Let's not stir up trouble about something that may not be what you think. mucholderthandirt Sep 2024 #24
This is beyond horrible. So very sad for his family. 🙏☹️ TommieMommy Sep 2024 #17
He was young, employed, and just passing through the area. Warpy Sep 2024 #19
NC AG is Josh Stein, currently running for Gov. ms liberty Sep 2024 #30
Suicide by strangulation is a common method Kaleva Sep 2024 #31
It's a pretty rotten way to go, the seconds crawling by as the panic builds Warpy Sep 2024 #33
Men usually hang or shoot themselves obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #37
It will get worse under TFG uponit7771 Sep 2024 #20
This doesn't sound good Joinfortmill Sep 2024 #21
An autopsy was scheduled to be performed Friday. How long Emile Sep 2024 #25
Holy crap! ecstatic Sep 2024 #34
NC's AG is Josh Stein, not a wingnut obamanut2012 Sep 2024 #38

Dennis Donovan

(28,022 posts)
1. Local story link (Trigger warning):
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:32 AM
Sep 2024
Concerns grow after alleged lynching of a Black man in Henderson, North Carolina

Javion McGee was found hanging from a tree in Henderson, NC, as his relatives question the official suicide ruling.


More at link - trigger warning - read article at own risk due to mention of suicide.

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hlthe2b

(107,172 posts)
2. Taking this at (horrific) face value, sounds like someone should try to get a leading activist involved (lawyer Crump?)
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 11:33 AM
Sep 2024

Al Sharpton? ACLU in NC?

dchill

(40,896 posts)
14. It would be embarrassing if he...
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:21 PM
Sep 2024

...beat himself to a pulp while hanging himself.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
5. that is so close to where I live
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:03 PM
Sep 2024

it's not on the local news? I'll keep looking - this is awful

Dan

(4,181 posts)
6. I watched and listened to the video....
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:06 PM
Sep 2024

My thoughts that the police don’t want anyone seeing the “suicide victim” body is because of the beating that he had to administer to himself prior to the suicide.

Make America Great Again…. People are going to die trying to go back to the “good old days”.

bluesbassman

(19,964 posts)
9. Yes, it's amazing how many defensive wounds you can give yourself during a suicide.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:34 PM
Sep 2024

Not to mention the rope burns you get on your wrists when you bind your own hands.

MyMission

(2,000 posts)
8. Henderson NC is Vance County
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 12:28 PM
Sep 2024

About 40 miles away from Raleigh, it's population is largely people of color, POC.
I'm horrified by this. It sends a message to the black community, and needs to be publicized and investigated.

I'm in Henderson county, which is in Western NC, 4+ hours away. At first I thought it happened near me. It might as well have.

ffr

(23,140 posts)
11. Not found hanging, found with his back to a tree with a rope around his neck
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:09 PM
Sep 2024

A death investigation in Vance County is sparking questions and rumors online across the country.

Javion Magee, a 21-year-old truck driver from the Chicago area, was found dead in a rural area off Vanco Mill Road on Sept. 11. Investigators said he was not far from his truck, leaning with his back up against a tree and a rope around his neck.

https://abc11.com/post/javion-magee-death-henderson-nc-investigation-not-lynching-vance-county-sheriff-says-despite-reports-hanging/15299573/

Susan Calvin

(2,163 posts)
16. Thanks. I thought the sheriff's statement was pretty weird.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 02:11 PM
Sep 2024

"There's been information put out there that there's a lynching in Vance County. There is not a lynching in Vance County. The young man was not dangling from a tree. He was not swinging from a tree. The rope was wrapped around his neck. It was not a noose. There was not a knot in the rope, so therefore, it was not a lynching here in Vance County."

Volaris

(10,674 posts)
23. oh OK everything's FINE then.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 03:28 PM
Sep 2024

This Sherriff thinks there's a difference between red apples and green apples, because the subject matter isn't oranges. Fuck him.

yardwork

(64,935 posts)
32. Ok, so I wonder what happened to him?
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 09:01 AM
Sep 2024

This doesn't sound like suicide.

Henderson, NC is just off a major highway, I-85, which is the thoroughfare from college towns up to Richmond and DC. It is a route for drug trafficking, among other things.

Vance County is a very poor, rural county. Two thoughts spring to mind: drug deal gone wrong, or vigilante white supremacists. I'm not confident in the Vance County law enforcement.

obamanut2012

(27,953 posts)
12. Just a clarification: he was not found hanging
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:13 PM
Sep 2024

And please spare me the personal attacks. This is horrific, but he was not hanging.

hack89

(39,180 posts)
13. He was seen buying the rope that was found around his neck
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:18 PM
Sep 2024

and he was not found hanging. Possible suicide.

Susan Calvin

(2,163 posts)
18. That does kind of sound like how Robin Williams did it.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 02:13 PM
Sep 2024

Although I must admit to not knowing any details of that, except that how they were found seems similar.

 

John Shaft

(808 posts)
26. Ropes don't have to be "hanging" or even have a noose for there to be a lynching
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:27 AM
Sep 2024

they used to chain Black men to trees and burn them alive then hack pieces of the incinerated corpse for "souvenirs:" this is also considered lynching. Google "strange fruit USA lynchings."

hack89

(39,180 posts)
27. I understand that
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:37 AM
Sep 2024

But given that he was found dead shortly after he bought that rope, there is a strong possibility of suicide. That's all.

 

John Shaft

(808 posts)
28. It isn't uncommon for truck drivers to purchase cordage
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 06:40 AM
Sep 2024

A 21 year old truck driver who purchases rope doesn't point to suicide. The young man's personal possessions wouldn't be missing either.

ecstatic

(34,569 posts)
36. Could be a crime of opportunity
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 02:20 PM
Sep 2024

A racist saw him purchasing the rope and killed him with his own rope.

ecstatic

(34,569 posts)
35. There needs to be a full investigation
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 02:17 PM
Sep 2024

Even if he purchased that item, that doesn't eliminate the possibility that a cop or another person saw him make that purchase and pounced. That would be a very convenient crime of opportunity actually.

When you look at all the other surrounding circumstances and the way the police department is conducting themselves, there definitely needs to be vigorous investigation and follow up from the DOJ.

PatrickforB

(15,131 posts)
15. We all know damned well this is a Klan message to intimidate black voters.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 01:54 PM
Sep 2024

This needs to go viral.

mucholderthandirt

(1,249 posts)
24. At this point we know no such thing. Let's not stir up trouble about something that may not be what you think.
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 03:16 AM
Sep 2024

Or do we become Vance and Trump, spreading lies without having any facts. Just because it's the South and a black man was involved doesn't mean it was a racist attack. Jumping Jeebus.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
19. He was young, employed, and just passing through the area.
Fri Sep 13, 2024, 02:15 PM
Sep 2024

Suicide? Unlikely, especially because hanging is such an unpleasant way to go. Driving full speed into a bridge support would have been more likely had he been suicidal. Suicide like this is a long shot.

Mom couldn't claim the body because of COVID RESTRICTIONS? HELL no. The cops know something and/or are in on it.
Will the family ever find out what happened? Probably not. I know the area, it's pretty desperate. Anyone who knows so,ething will be too afraid to talk.

Cops are going to have to do better than "he bought a rope at Wal Mart," trick drives do that alll the time when they feel a load shifting and need to tie it down more securely.

This story stinks to high heaven. I hope the state AG realizes how bad it looks and sends a team in to do a better job than those cops did.

Kaleva

(38,715 posts)
31. Suicide by strangulation is a common method
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 08:07 AM
Sep 2024

Robin Williams, RFK Jrs first wife, my nieces daughter

"A new report from researchers with the Johns Hopkins Center for Injury Research and Policy finds the majority of the previously reported increase in suicide in the U.S. between 2000 and 2010 is attributable to an increase in hanging/suffocation, which increased from 19 percent of all suicides in 2000 to 26 percent of all suicides in 2010"

https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2012/baker_suicide

Your inaccurate first paragraph destroys the rest of your argument . If one is wrong with the opening statement, then everything that follows is suspect too.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
33. It's a pretty rotten way to go, the seconds crawling by as the panic builds
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 01:58 PM
Sep 2024

and the person finally blacks out.

Razors pain you;
Rivers are damp;
Acids stain you;
And drugs cause cramp.
Guns aren’t lawful;
Nooses give;
Gas smells awful;
You might as well live
--Dorothy Parker

obamanut2012

(27,953 posts)
37. Men usually hang or shoot themselves
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 02:37 PM
Sep 2024

Being young, employed, and not from the area doesn't mean it wasn't suicide. Doesn't mean it was, but none of that is a "gotcha" that means he was murderer.

Emile

(31,323 posts)
25. An autopsy was scheduled to be performed Friday. How long
Sat Sep 14, 2024, 03:27 AM
Sep 2024

before they'll release what the cause of death is?

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