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applegrove

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Mon Sep 16, 2024, 09:45 PM Sep 2024

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) applegrove Sep 2024 OP
K/R nt CoopersDad Sep 2024 #1
That's what they called the Tutsi in Rwanda before the genocide. Solly Mack Sep 2024 #2
Yep. At this point, I'm just waiting for the hate radio talkers... keep_left Sep 2024 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #9
Rwanda, 1994, the Tutsi people who were slaughtered are on average much talller than the Hutus. MLF1981 Sep 2024 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #17
That phrase was supposedly the final genocidal command given... keep_left Sep 2024 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #18
That's another phrase that comes rushing forward in my head when I read or hear what hate-mongers are saying now. Solly Mack Sep 2024 #30
Thank you. H2O Man Sep 2024 #23
Can't see/hear the word used against people without thinking of it. Solly Mack Sep 2024 #31
Exactly. H2O Man Sep 2024 #33
I watched this Texas sheriff from I think the Brownsville area testify to Congress about what was called the brewens Sep 2024 #3
I'm worried the GOP is opening up another front applegrove Sep 2024 #4
President Biden is now immune and he must save democracy. Justice matters. Sep 2024 #12
Precisely, and also the reason why Vance said he'll keep creating stories like Springfield onetexan Sep 2024 #27
The infestation is this sheriff and his ilk. And trump and vance and the whole hoard of vermin need to go. Maraya1969 Sep 2024 #6
First comes the dehumanization. pfitz59 Sep 2024 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2024 #11
If we have nuclear weapons, why aren't we using them? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2024 #19
You really should put your subject line in quotation marks, (lest someone misunderstand and alert) hlthe2b Sep 2024 #29
Thanks. I did that at first and removed them because it's not a direct quote. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2024 #32
But the DOJ will allow this PD to arrest people and put them in jail uponit7771 Sep 2024 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author kingvitamin Sep 2024 #10
It wants to repeat itself Inkey Sep 2024 #24
The spirit of evil is human greed and lust for power Mysterian Sep 2024 #37
He is likely a "Christian reconstructionist" as well as a blatant racist and xenophobe. valleyrogue Sep 2024 #13
And I bet that good ole xtian goes to church every Sunday. kimbutgar Sep 2024 #16
Combine this with the Rich Lowrey statement today moniss Sep 2024 #20
He announced his retirement in August. flying_wahini Sep 2024 #21
he is retiring. I guess he feels he can let his racism fly freely BlueWaveNeverEnd Sep 2024 #22
As I keep saying, more evidence of B.See Sep 2024 #25
I need to buy a punching bag. RandySF Sep 2024 #26
This is the guy who tried to cover-up Blue_Roses Sep 2024 #28
Even more obscene... GiqueCee Sep 2024 #35
Sherilyn, that's Texas... GiqueCee Sep 2024 #34
White christian Nationalists are a menace to society wolfie001 Sep 2024 #36
Recall DENVERPOPS Sep 2024 #38
The DPS guy was describing the Venezuelan Gang, not immigrants in general. surfered Sep 2024 #39

CoopersDad

(2,930 posts)
1. K/R nt
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:00 PM
Sep 2024

Solly Mack

(93,207 posts)
2. That's what they called the Tutsi in Rwanda before the genocide.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:10 PM
Sep 2024

keep_left

(2,525 posts)
5. Yep. At this point, I'm just waiting for the hate radio talkers...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:38 PM
Sep 2024

...to start commanding the MAGA chuds to "cut down the tall trees".

Response to keep_left (Reply #5)

MLF1981

(211 posts)
14. Rwanda, 1994, the Tutsi people who were slaughtered are on average much talller than the Hutus.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:28 PM
Sep 2024

It was a thinly disguised message broadcast by Hutus to their fellow Hutus to murder the Tutsi people.

Response to MLF1981 (Reply #14)

keep_left

(2,525 posts)
15. That phrase was supposedly the final genocidal command given...
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:33 PM
Sep 2024

...by Radio Télévision Libre des Mille Collines in Rwanda. I guess you could call it the Rwandan version of the political dogwhistle. Mille Collines (Thousand Hills) was the hate radio station for Rwanda, and it was held partially responsible for the genocide that occurred during the civil war there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_T%C3%A9l%C3%A9vision_Libre_des_Mille_Collines
(Sorry for the weird URL formatting; that's the way it came out when cut and pasted. It works on my browser, anyway).

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

Response to keep_left (Reply #15)

Solly Mack

(93,207 posts)
30. That's another phrase that comes rushing forward in my head when I read or hear what hate-mongers are saying now.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:32 AM
Sep 2024

H2O Man

(75,778 posts)
23. Thank you.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 12:11 AM
Sep 2024

Solly Mack

(93,207 posts)
31. Can't see/hear the word used against people without thinking of it.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:07 AM
Sep 2024

Trump and his supporters are a lot of bad things, and I do see them as a collective danger in many ways, but they are human with all that means. Still human. Still people. Harming them or being the cause of their harm? No. Can't do that. Would be wrong.

Have a little fun at their expense (Vance/couches)? Yes. No couches were in danger ever. No makers of couches. No furniture stores. No one was threatening to burn down or bomb anything couches related.

But the attacks on all immigrants? At the border. Haitian immigrants in particular right now? That puts people in danger. Real and actual danger.



H2O Man

(75,778 posts)
33. Exactly.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:33 AM
Sep 2024

Very well said.

The felon and his cult remind me of Alex DeLarge & his droogs in A Clockwork Orange.

 

brewens

(15,359 posts)
3. I watched this Texas sheriff from I think the Brownsville area testify to Congress about what was called the
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:10 PM
Sep 2024

Burn Program. It funded sheriff department helicopters they used to spot and destroy pot filed.

This inbred moron weighed about 400 lbs and sounded like a hawg shit in his mouth! It wuz A jobs progryaym! I knew it was coming.
He just wanted to keep that funding and his heleecopter! LOL

applegrove

(123,610 posts)
4. I'm worried the GOP is opening up another front
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:25 PM
Sep 2024

after starting in Springfield and are going to dehumanized people around the country is a pre meditated fashion till they hit a critical mass. First they went after Haitian needed employees (what should be a success story) for 'ruinning' a small city and falsely claiming they were eating pets. Then they go after illegals as cochroches. They'll target a new group every week for dehumanization in hopes of hitting xenaphobic liftoff and suck many into the vortex just before the election. Won't work. Dems are wise to them. So is the public increasingly.

Justice matters.

(7,585 posts)
12. President Biden is now immune and he must save democracy.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:22 PM
Sep 2024

To restore the soul of the nation, the USSC gave him all the tools.

He's the only one immune and he has the pardon powers.

He must act preemptively before the fascist regime takes hold.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
27. Precisely, and also the reason why Vance said he'll keep creating stories like Springfield
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 03:01 AM
Sep 2024

Maraya1969

(23,024 posts)
6. The infestation is this sheriff and his ilk. And trump and vance and the whole hoard of vermin need to go.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 10:50 PM
Sep 2024

pfitz59

(10,986 posts)
7. First comes the dehumanization.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:10 PM
Sep 2024

Then come the camps. And when they are full, the ovens. It's an old script.

Response to pfitz59 (Reply #7)

19. If we have nuclear weapons, why aren't we using them?
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:55 PM
Sep 2024
President-elect T***p is alleged to have asked that question multiple times during a briefing on national security.

hlthe2b

(106,758 posts)
29. You really should put your subject line in quotation marks, (lest someone misunderstand and alert)
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 05:14 AM
Sep 2024

--Just a fellow Duer trying to help you...

32. Thanks. I did that at first and removed them because it's not a direct quote.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:27 AM
Sep 2024

Something left over from journalism school, I guess. I had seen that statement in an article several years ago, but could not find it for this post. I think I'll go back to the way you suggested, which, while violating Strunk and White's Elements of Style, is a lot more understandable. I could have reworded it and gotten the same point across.

I try to be accurate in my posts, and provide links to sources. Since I could not find it in this case, I linked to a story which provided a discussion of TFG's fascination with things that go "boom!"

That actually was a near-verbatim quote. The briefer reported that TFG kept returning to that topic, asking about using nukes three times during the presentation.

This mad man must not be allowed near the nuclear codes. General Milley was correct in providing a buffer between T***p and the ability to launch Armageddon. During that unsettling period between the election and inauguration there was a non-trivial concern that he'd launch an attack to justify not letting go of the presidency in the middle of WWIII (which he started). What's a few million deaths when it keeps you in office and your ego intact?

uponit7771

(91,993 posts)
8. But the DOJ will allow this PD to arrest people and put them in jail
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:11 PM
Sep 2024

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Inkey

(338 posts)
24. It wants to repeat itself
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:12 AM
Sep 2024

We are aware of it now. It can't hide, but it will morph into another form again. These are strange and dangerous times indeed !

Mysterian

(5,207 posts)
37. The spirit of evil is human greed and lust for power
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:43 PM
Sep 2024

People like Musk, Trump, Putin, the Koch Bros., Leonard Leo, etc. wish to be monarchs. The "spirit of evil" is just depraved human beings.

valleyrogue

(1,191 posts)
13. He is likely a "Christian reconstructionist" as well as a blatant racist and xenophobe.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:24 PM
Sep 2024

These "Christians" believe in mass genocide.

What is pathetic is there would be no "undocumented immigrant" problem if employers didn't demand their cheap labor.

kimbutgar

(23,607 posts)
16. And I bet that good ole xtian goes to church every Sunday.
Mon Sep 16, 2024, 11:35 PM
Sep 2024

But forgot the words from the Bible. I was a stranger in your land and you welcomed me.

moniss

(6,150 posts)
20. Combine this with the Rich Lowrey statement today
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 12:02 AM
Sep 2024

and the other MAGA/GQP feeling of openness to use bigoted, sexist, homophobic etc. slurs openly in public and anybody can readily see where this is going. Literally because of JD "Cushions" Vance and the Orange Ruski a major city in Ohio is under terror threats and having to call for the National Guard. I hope Ohio voters remember who caused this in their community.

flying_wahini

(8,043 posts)
21. He announced his retirement in August.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 12:04 AM
Sep 2024

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,478 posts)
22. he is retiring. I guess he feels he can let his racism fly freely
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 12:04 AM
Sep 2024

B.See

(3,823 posts)
25. As I keep saying, more evidence of
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:44 AM
Sep 2024

Trump's MAGA'S outright fascist Nazi shit. And they're growing bolder and bolder with it.

And if you think this sentiment applies only to undocumented immigrants, NEWSFLASH it's how they feel about ALL minorites

Including the silly ass mfkrs like Byron, Amber, Candace, Vivek and Patel - out there VOUCHING for that shit.

RandySF

(71,149 posts)
26. I need to buy a punching bag.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:46 AM
Sep 2024

Blue_Roses

(13,456 posts)
28. This is the guy who tried to cover-up
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 04:33 AM
Sep 2024

the lack of response, by his state troopers, to the Uvalde School shooting. The troopers would not go into the school and it took a Border Patrol Agent to approach and kill rhe shooter. Before this happened, the shooter was free to go through the school and shoot at random. This went on for an hour. Parents finally said they were going in since nothing was being done to stop the shooter.

GiqueCee

(1,512 posts)
35. Even more obscene...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:24 PM
Sep 2024

... was the little bastard's mother saying the following day, "Don't judge my son. I'm sure he had his reasons." Now, THAT is seriously sick. Odd that nobody followed up on that.

GiqueCee

(1,512 posts)
34. Sherilyn, that's Texas...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:21 PM
Sep 2024

... that's how they roll under the dictatorship of the Terrible Triumvirate, Republican scum that they are.

wolfie001

(3,844 posts)
36. White christian Nationalists are a menace to society
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:35 PM
Sep 2024

The Worst of us Americans! Absolute trash human beings.

DENVERPOPS

(10,147 posts)
38. Recall
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:54 PM
Sep 2024

during Covid, Trump sent tons of PPE and Equipment to Red States, esp Fla and Tx, and one of the states hit the hardest Mass got NOTHING.....They had to fly the PPE supplies in non-stop from China, by PRIVATE carrier, and have the Mass National Guard protect them from the Runway to the state distribution points.....

Trump in the past few days has said if elected President , he will NOT give California, any federal aid, tanker air support, or federally funded fire fighters, what-so-ever, to help with their wildfire nightmares or reconstruction.

surfered

(3,725 posts)
39. The DPS guy was describing the Venezuelan Gang, not immigrants in general.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:13 PM
Sep 2024

Here’s the quote.

"Tren de Aragua gangsters are like cockroaches," said DPS Director McCraw. "They multiply quickly; small intrusions into communities become infestations if not aggressively pursued. These Venezuelan thugs are highly combative, violent, and certainly adaptable."

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