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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(9,581 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:26 AM Tuesday

The staggering reach of Trump's misinformation -- not just on Haitian migrants

From Day One of his presidency to this day, Donald Trump has promoted an alternate reality that has caught on with a shocking proportion of his base. But we don’t often get good polling that shows just how much Trump’s misinformation has penetrated the country.

Today, we have such polling. And it’s sobering, if unsurprising.

As Trump has launched a series of claims and suggestions that are bizarre even by his standards, new data shows large swaths of his supporters believe them.

But the most drastic among them — most notably the claim about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, stealing and eating pets — have not caught on with more middle-of-the-road voters. That suggests there is real potential downside for Trump in pushing these fantasies.

The new data comes from YouGov, which has occasionally tested Trump’s false claims. After last week’s debate, YouGov asked voters about a battery of them.


For instance, independents disbelieve the Haitian migrants claim more than 2-to-1, and five times as many say it’s “definitely false” (35 percent) as say it’s “definitely true” (7 percent).

The gaps are even wider on executing babies and sex changes in schools. More than 6 in 10 independents dispute both, and relatively few independents — less than one-quarter — embrace them. Many independents are actually reliable voters for one side or another, and the data suggest these are probably Republican-leaning ones.

All of which indicates that Trump is largely preaching to a credulous choir here, while the potentially decisive voters generally see his conspiracy theories for what they are.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-staggering-reach-of-trump-s-misinformation-not-just-on-haitian-migrants/ar-AA1qFaly

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The staggering reach of Trump's misinformation -- not just on Haitian migrants (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Tuesday OP
Will the voters who will decide the election reward an "unreliable narrator"? tetedur Tuesday #1
They also believe that all immunizations are poisonous. raging moderate Tuesday #2
Any time anyone under the age of 70 dies you'll see a number of posted responses blaming it on vaccines. Midnight Writer Tuesday #3
anytime a young famous person dies "they got the jab" BlueWaveNeverEnd Tuesday #4

tetedur

(950 posts)
1. Will the voters who will decide the election reward an "unreliable narrator"?
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:42 AM
Tuesday

Which is fancy for liar. If the American people think it is smart to vote for a president who doesn't believe in facts we are doomed. Who could follow any leader who refuses to acknowledge facts? It is insanity.

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..[T]he potentially decisive voters generally see his conspiracy theories for what they are.

Whether they will punish him for that is an open question. Voters have long viewed Trump as an unreliable narrator, with a survey last week showing that 57 percent of Americans say his campaign messages are “rarely” or “never” based on facts.

raging moderate

(4,469 posts)
2. They also believe that all immunizations are poisonous.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:40 AM
Tuesday

Last edited Tue Sep 17, 2024, 09:25 AM - Edit history (1)

A recent discussion on Facebook drew MANY ignorant tirades against ALL vaccines, including those that stopped polio, smallpox, measles, and COVID! When I was a child, my older brother nearly died of polio, and my younger brother nearly died of measles! And my sister had a bad infection that might have killed her without vaccines! And I, later in life, had a bad illness that might have killed me without vaccines! I will never forget the exhausted look on our overworked family doctor's face as he examined my older brother and immediately got him into the hospital! We had better look out! Maybe we need some documentaries about these illnesses!

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