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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe American Justice System has failed this country.
Although they were not the only institution to fail, they are the one that the people most expected to defend our Constitution and to hold criminals accountable for their crimes. It did not happen. Even our Supreme Court fell prey to the cultish propaganda campaign against our democracy.
Mr Trump, the candidate for the Republican Party, now senses that he is going to lose the election on November 5th. He has become, and will become, even more violent as that day approaches. There is nothing he will not do in order to win, or to stop his opponent from ever claiming victory.
Nobody believes that it was an easy decision for our justice system. But, they chose to make exceptions for the crimes of Mr Trump. Perhaps they thought it would all just go away?
Win or lose, he is scheduled to be sentenced on November 26th, after the election, for crimes committed in the state of New York. That is the last chance to hold the convicted felon accountable. He once said that he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and he would not lose a vote. It now appears that he could stab our democracy to death in the middle of 5th Avenue and no one would hold him accountable.
Walleye
(33,927 posts)When the abused one tries to leave. Thats when most domestic violence happens.
bucolic_frolic
(45,797 posts)Abuse of our logic, reason, culture, civilization, minds collectively and individually, narcissistic abuse that separated our emotions from our souls. And he's still at it, telling us Haitians are eating cats and dogs. Logic, reason, law, sanity never means anything to an abuser. Winning -- dominating -- is the only goal. Triumph and you can move on to the next victim.
Walleye
(33,927 posts)Trueblue Texan
(2,729 posts)We just can't shake the motherfucker.
BattleRow
(656 posts)Walleye
(33,927 posts)onecaliberal
(35,082 posts)Walleye
(33,927 posts)Cowpunk
(776 posts)I think he will scurry away if a jail term becomes a reality for him. He's a coward.
Walleye
(33,927 posts)Think. Again.
(15,606 posts)But I must disagree with you on one point.
When you write...
"Nobody believes that it was an easy decision for our justice system. But, they chose to make exceptions for the crimes of Mr Trump. Perhaps they thought it would all just go away?"
....I believe you are wrongly giving a lot of people within our justice system the benefit of the doubt, because, for me, there is little doubt that key figures within the justice system are intentionally working on the side of trump by trying to "make it all go away" for him.
erronis
(16,433 posts)onecaliberal
(35,082 posts)kentuck
(112,278 posts)But I think the ones in positions of leadership were just too hesitant and fearful to do what needed to be done. Trump divided everything and everyone that he touched, including the Justice Dept. He was toxic.
Vinca
(50,744 posts)eye. They could have ended the Trump reign of terror right then and there and they chose not to. I wonder if any regret it.
Frank D. Lincoln
(382 posts)He couldn't bend down and kiss Trump's ring fast enough not that long ago (and did so with a big shit-eating grin on his face). What a douche McConnell is.
TurboDem
(254 posts)Mr. trump is the only person in America that is above the law. He always was and he always will be. I predict he will skate as usual on November 26 and we'll be left wondering how this could possibly have happened.
Doodley
(9,950 posts)I think it was Jason Stanley who said, We are in the legal phase of fascism.
Escape
(16 posts)More than two years ago, most of us were frustrated and angry that "nothing had been done" about Trump's crime spree, but we were comforted by the calendar. He would surely be brought to justice. He would be jailed. He would be disqualified from ever holding office again. He would be stopped.
We confidently expected SOMETHING would be done. But we were wrong. And even though I expect him to lose in November, I don't expect our "Trump problem" to go away, or even to subside.
I fear that next September we will still be here discussing the neverending toxic spectacle of Trump.
Our system has no answer for this line or level of criminality.
onecaliberal
(35,082 posts)The system has rules. The country has laws to deal with it. Why aren't those in charge of enforcing the laws doing so? THAT is the real problem. Criminals exist. If you did any one of the things trump is accused of you would have been locked up for a very long time, long ago.
Lonestarblue
(11,328 posts)Leonard Leo of the Federalist Society groomed judges for their primarily extremist Catholic views and secondarily for corporatists who hold the federal government and its ability to regulate corporate actions and thus possibly decrease the profits flowing to wealthy shareholderspeople like Leonard Leo. These judges were not groomed to consider the Constitutional protections of the people but rather how to bend the Constitution to the needs of their wealthy patrons. While the immunity decision was perplexing, in one way it was not. It was wealthy white people defending a member of their class.
Frank D. Lincoln
(382 posts)Lemon Lyman
(1,444 posts)When you wrote, "Even our Supreme Court" ... I'd say they're the worst of all of our problems with the legal system. They're just completely inept & corrupt. Then they sit there like, "Na, Na, Na, Na - you can't touch me." Thank you mitch mcconnell you cheating f*ck.
bush got to appoint 2 in eight years. President Obama got to appoint 2 in eight years. numnuts got to appoint THREE in FOUR years??!!
HagathaCrispy
(55 posts)kentuck
(112,278 posts)Every day we learn something new. Whether Trump wins or loses, the problem does not go away. Whether he is jailed or not, the problem will remain. So....
Hotler
(11,812 posts)AllaN01Bear
(22,393 posts)But we as a country allowed McConnell and his gang to stack the courts from top to bottom with bought and paid for judges.We deserve the political class that we allow to rule over us as serfs, when those that vote don't look further then their own want and needs Only time will flush the slime away.
Kid Berwyn
(17,130 posts)Along with Mitch McConnell and Oleg Deripaska, of course.
jaxexpat
(7,423 posts)In 2025, Christmas comes in January.
Clouds Passing
(1,039 posts)FightFight
(13 posts)when a white guy can drag a police man with his car and still be taken in alive,,,umm
cutroot
(950 posts)And they are buying and coercing eager traitors from within
Bev54
(11,415 posts)many poor judges to district courts, appeals courts and supreme court. They did this with intention, it is not as if the system just fell apart, it was designed for this. Always remember who and why the country is in such a mess.
republianmushroom
(16,465 posts)krkaufman
(13,613 posts)I definitely view recent SCOTUS decisions as complicity more than theyre having been swayed by some propaganda campaign. Trump is just a means to an end for them.
But the failures are many, as well, including the policy violations of James Comey interfering in an election, and the common practice servility of Robert Mueller in failing to charge Trump for obstruction or pursuing ALL associated criminal leads.