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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn response to the SCOTUS-sanctioned murder of Amber Nicole Thurman, there is no scenario where I would convict a Dr
In her final hours, Amber Nicole Thurman suffered from a grave infection that her suburban Atlanta hospital was well-equipped to treat.
Shed taken abortion pills and encountered a rare complication; she had not expelled all of the fetal tissue from her body. She showed up at Piedmont Henry Hospital in need of a routine procedure to clear it from her uterus, called a dilation and curettage, or D&C.
But just that summer, her state had made performing the procedure a felony, with few exceptions. Any doctor who violated the new Georgia law could be prosecuted and face up to a decade in prison.
Thurman waited in pain in a hospital bed, worried about what would happen to her 6-year-old son, as doctors monitored her infection spreading, her blood pressure sinking and her organs beginning to fail.
https://www.propublica.org/article/georgia-abortion-ban-amber-thurman-death
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19468038
So here's what happens today...
There is no scenario, no amount of evidence will ever be enough to convict.
If I am on a jury:
No medical professional will ever have to convince me that they *had* to do a procedure to save a woman's life.
No woman will ever have to convince me that what she did with their reproductive system was OK.
Go ahead and call it jury nullification, I don't care, but if the choice is between jury nullification or being an accessory to government and SCOTUS-sanctioned murder and this bizarre cult-like ritual where a woman has to be on the verge of death before receiving treatment, then I choose jury nullification.
Joinfortmill
(15,778 posts)Oath
By all that I hold highest, I promise my patients competence, integrity, candor, personal commitment to their best interest, compassion, and absolute discretion, and confidentiality within the law.
I shall do by my patients as I would be done by; shall obtain consultation whenever I or they desire; shall include them to the extent they wish in all important decisions; and shall minimize suffering whenever a cure cannot be obtained, understanding that a dignified death is an important goal in everyones life.
I shall try to establish a friendly relationship with my patients and shall accept each one in a nonjudgmental manner, appreciating the validity and worth of different value systems and according to each person a full measure of human dignity.
I shall charge only for my professional services and shall not profit financially in any other way as a result of the advice and care I render my patients.
I shall provide advice and encouragement for my patients in their efforts to sustain their own health.
I shall work with my profession to improve the quality of medical care and to improve the public health, but I shall not let any lesser public or professional consideration interfere with my primary commitment to provide the best and most appropriate care available to each of my patients.
To the extent that I live by these precepts, I shall be a worthy physician.
Freddie
(9,510 posts)NO!! Their hands were tied by the laws. Her family should sue the state of Georgia for wrongful death. This story has to be HUGE news!
ck4829
(35,596 posts)Clouds Passing
(1,039 posts)Current status of abortion access across the United States
Map showing current status of abortion restrictions across the United States
BannedLegal with gestational limit of 6-18 weeksLegal
The legalized murder of women is beyond anything I ever imagined I would have to live through. Vote the fascists out!
Hotler
(11,812 posts)Fascism needs a religious component and the Christian right (christian dominionist) are it.
BattleRow
(656 posts)this election is about the lesser of the two evils...grrrr
usonian
(12,330 posts)BattleRow
(656 posts)an evil choice,to begin with.
usonian
(12,330 posts)I'll say no more.
At this time.
JT45242
(2,666 posts)The attorneys for the doctors and the hospitals are calling the shots -- they are the DEATH PANELS that the right was so outraged about when the ACA was passed.
Of course, when it is women and not rich white dudes, they are not so worried about death panels.
The hypocrisy and complete depraved indifference to women's lives and quality of life is sickening.
There needs to be a ROEVEMBER To hold all of these evil politicians who gleefully proclaimed themselves pro-life while ruining or ending the lives of so many women and their families.
onecaliberal
(35,082 posts)evolves
(5,556 posts)that by the time a case like this goes to trial, the physicians career and ability to earn a living is over.
Most employment contracts have a clause for immediate termination in the case of felony charges; the same is true for hospital privileges. Most states suspend or revoke licensure to practice as well. Once your license has action against it in one state, getting licensure in other states is almost impossible.
Physicians are caught in a horrifying Catch-22: malpractice or felony, all courtesy of the Orange ass#ole and his corrupt SCOTUS.
I wonder who they think is going to provide obstetric care in this country when all of the obstetricians are gone
.
Biglinda 52
(57 posts)for businesses to step up and talk about leaving; for groups to stop promoting tourism in Georgia; for OB-GYNEs to leave the state. The only thing we know in this country is the power of money.
dickthegrouch
(3,456 posts)You can even set a flag not to book layovers in airports in certain States.
I have exclusions set for all major Texan airports as well as Miami, Salt Lake City, and Atlanta.
That makes finding some flights difficult from the San Francisco area, but I refuse to give any of those States even a cent of my money.
HagathaCrispy
(55 posts)This womans memory needs to be made into an ad and broadcast far and wide in all states.