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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Rightwing is claiming that the FBI or the Deep state is responsible for these attempts on DJT's life.
Just a quick reminder.
The Deep State doesn't miss or get spotted in the bushes hunkered down like an idiot. The Deep State can hit you from 10 miles up. If the FBI wants you dead... which they don't... they just don't... but if they did, they're extremely professional and whoever they 'wanted' dead, would be dead, at least by the second attempt.
Some people believe Kennedy was assassinated by the Deep State and that's really how it's done. It's clean, it's professional and they have a realistic patsey. Bubbles from the Trailer Park Boys shooting in the direction of the target with an automatic weapon really isn't their style. They are the high powered rifle and crazy angles sort of people... so, arm yourselves against this and similar right-wing crazy conspiracies.
We have real conspiracies we like fighting about... Who's trying to shoot Donald Trump isn't a conspiracy theory.... A) We don't care. B) We really don't want him dead since if he does get hit, J.D. might actually have a shot in this racist ass country. and C) Seriously, we really don't care. No amount of wanting us to care is going to make us care. He can run down the street in Chicago dodging a hail of bullets and I would just go pop some popcorn and enjoy the show.
If he didn't make it... meh.
I'm rewatching Dexter and that doesn't have commercials...
GreenWave
(8,480 posts)ck4829
(35,596 posts)A deep state, assuming it does exist and as described by right-wingers, wouldn't send a lone gunman to do what a press of a button could do to Trump's motorcade or airplane.
mikelewis
(4,174 posts)And we know it. We have everything from Nuclear to Chemical to Biological to a military that has the best snipers... well... maybe... there are some pretty good snipers out there... but we got a shit ton of great ones. If we want a fucker dead... he's dead.
Can I direct your memory to a certain Saddam Hussein? Remember old Ichabod 's buddy, the guy on the horse... yeah, the Deep State really does 'get it's man'. Did you see the fucking hole they dug Saddam out of and then filmed it and broadcast his decapitation by hanging. Yeah... that Deep State.
I'm crazy and can take care of myself. I'm not stupid. Deep State my ass... it's chickens coming home to roost and nothing else... his hate is blowing up in his face and I can't say he doesn't deserve it.
mikelewis
(4,174 posts)See... that's fun.
Not remotely provable or realistic... and honestly, I don't really care so please don't try to prove it... my point being. Exploding technology from 1980's is clever. It gets one saying, "Hmmm, who uses pagers? Maybe that's smart. Is Hezbollah just now watching Season 1 of the Wire?"
It's just fun... this crouching in the bushes bullshit...
That's insulting. That's what it is... it's insulting. IF, we can explode Trumps pager whenever we want and I'm going to say I'm skeptical but yeah, I think we would approach such a sensitive target with a bit more panache and mystery. It's insulting. We're not that incompetent. We're not Trumpers.
Qutzupalotl
(14,871 posts)mikelewis
(4,174 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:16 PM - Edit history (1)
I don't really think what you're seeing is an attack by Israel. I think Hezbollah just bought some shitty batteries in one big batch and they all exploding at the same time because that's how physics works. It very well could be a very clever attack by Mossad but I'm a little skeptical.
I was fascinated to find out the Muslim world still uses pagers and it makes a lot of sense. Power sucks over there and cell towers are unreliable... plus it's harder to hack the pager and any clandestine codes so it makes a lot of sense. In those pagers that exploded, two batteries last forever and if they're engineered wrong, those seal just get eaten up at the same pace since it's the same equipment... and well... Boom!
My guess, the guy who sold them the pagers is shitting his pants right now... just saying.
On edit... I just read that all the pagers had received multiple pings prior to exploding so no... that's no vendor related issue. Someone did a bad, bad thing.
arlyellowdog
(1,154 posts)Arent they picking up kooks with guns all the time near the White House?
Emile
(27,691 posts)Happy Hoosier
(8,102 posts).... he'd be dead already.
mikelewis
(4,174 posts)"NO WAY!!!!"
They don't leave their audiences bored. Their method of public execution is well thought out and full of mind fuckery. You know 'They're' lying but they make you look like the fool for saying it.
Now, I'm the voice of reason?
How in the fuck is that?
HERE!!!
9/11 was an inside job,
Kennedy was assassinated by the Military Industrial Complex
The McRib is a lie, it's just hamburger and BBQ sauce. It's not even good.
Understand... that's fun. That's intriguing... that's what we get off on at 3 o'clock on a Sunday afternoon while we're ranting about the Evil Overlord Cheney and company... Bring back real villains!
Wounded Bear
(60,046 posts)Has that inside job feel to me. Especially since it was bungled so badly, must have come from this gang that can't shoot straight.
mikelewis
(4,174 posts)If the Deep State hired Mr. Magoo to kill the ex President, then I am just so disgusted. We need real villains again.
Sneederbunk
(14,873 posts)ok_cpu
(2,126 posts)"trump pissed off a passionate Ukraine supporter by refusing to stand up to Russia and support Ukraine."
mikelewis
(4,174 posts)WHICH OF COURSE I JUST DID!!! Dammit Donald got me again... LOL
Just kidding.
It's not surprising that right after he pretty much stated that he would pull all support from Ukraine on day one and let Russia have it... that someone who disagreed with that idea was found skulking in the bushes. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect those dots.
He basically promised to hand Ukraine over to Russia on day one. He's hoping that will be a good enough incentive to get Putin to continue to back him. Here's a bit of a conspiracy for you... I don't think Vladimir is really on Donald's side anymore. He recently 'joked' about backing Kamala. I don't think that was a joke. I think he sees Donald's defeat as inevitable and out of his control. I think whatever he was able to pull in 2016 was a 'one off' and now it's Cheney and Obama against Musk and Trump. I think Putin is out of it... well, still fucking with things, he's not laying down on the job but no, I think Donnie Dumbass is Done.
I remember watchin Saddam's head getting ripped off... I mean, it was sort of ok at the time because he had all these weapons of mass destruction see... With that memory in mind... I don't like the odds of Elon v Obama and Trump v Cheney.
dickthegrouch
(3,456 posts)If the FBI wants you dead... which they don't... they just don't... but if they did, they're extremely professional and whoever they 'wanted' dead, would be dead, at least by the second attempt.
The Secret Service however couldn't hit a guy who didn't know they'd found him. How incompetent is that?
mikelewis
(4,174 posts)See... Trump gets to pick who he wants to run his detail. Sometimes, not understanding how to do your job results in catastrophe's. The snipers and protection detail per person... they don't give a shit. They go where they're told to go and stand where' they're told to stand and they don't care. The person who lays out that detail is responsible for placing his troops appropriately. This is just from an outside observers POV but yeah... I see Trump Quality Experience running that detail so no, it's not remotely surprising that it was a fucked up detail. Of course there could be more to it... I've no idea. It's just I've actually met real government workers and I just know how that shit goes down. I'm more inclined to believe incompetence led to that ridiculous display and that's why they're just now trying to get some steam out of it... all the people who were in the chain of command who would have made the decisions are fired and disgraced so now is the time to milk it if they can.
So the Secret Service on a whole is very competent. Recently Hulk Hogan offered to body slam Kamala Harris and while I think that's a terrible idea... I would love to see him try it. There is a huge difference between fake wrestling and a Secret Service agent. I'm quite certain Mr. Hogan really doesn't want to find that out personally, that might sting a bit. But, at least he got to look cool to people who think it's cool to body slam a girl...
But personally and this is just my barely informed opinion, I'm voting for Donald being the Douchebag he was and putting a crony in place who didn't know what he was doing. That seems so much more credible than any state sponsored attempt on his life when a Dead Donald doesn't help the us Dems.
grumpyduck
(6,591 posts)Deep JDV. Look there.
Flatrat
(115 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(3,784 posts)Thats the point of all this.