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Take a moment to hear what Trump and Vance have done to Springfield, OH from someone who lives there (Original Post)
kpete
Tuesday
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Absolutely horrible what those two deplorable idiots have done to these people
TommieMommy
Tuesday
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TommieMommy
(629 posts)1. Absolutely horrible what those two deplorable idiots have done to these people
Deuxcents
(18,509 posts)2. And I fear they are not done yet. Is there no way to stop them?
Think. Again.
(15,606 posts)3. Maybe this?...
18 U.S. Code § 373 - Solicitation to commit a crime of violence
(a)Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct, shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half of the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the crime solicited, or both; or if the crime solicited is punishable by life imprisonment or death, shall be imprisoned for not more than twenty years.
Source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373
(a)Whoever, with intent that another person engage in conduct constituting a felony that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against property or against the person of another in violation of the laws of the United States, and under circumstances strongly corroborative of that intent, solicits, commands, induces, or otherwise endeavors to persuade such other person to engage in such conduct, shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half of the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the crime solicited, or both; or if the crime solicited is punishable by life imprisonment or death, shall be imprisoned for not more than twenty years.
Source: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/373
Deuxcents
(18,509 posts)8. US code..does than mean Federal law? If, so, what would be the reason for the slow response?
Think. Again.
(15,606 posts)9. AG garland doesn't usually respond at all.
orleans
(34,553 posts)13. there was a caller on thom hartmann's show earlier
and she read a u.s. code law (not sure if it was that one) and wanted to know why we can't use the law she read to stop trump / vance from saying the crap they're saying. why don't we go after them?
thom said they know they can get away with it; that they're above the law (something to that effect)
Think. Again.
(15,606 posts)14. Yes, garland should definitely be acting on this in some way...
... that IS his responsibility and duty, after all.
LetMyPeopleVote
(151,967 posts)4. As Springfield reels, Vance says he's willing to 'create stories'
As residents of Springfield, Ohio, deal with a barrage of threats, Donald Trump and JD Vance are adding fuel to the fire they helped start.
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/springfield-reels-vance-says-s-willing-create-stories-rcna171253
With seven weeks remaining before one of the most important elections in generations, the Republican Partys 2024 presidential ticket has been heavily invested in an incredibly reckless and utterly false message: Immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, are abducting and eating household pets, while slowly destroying a once-great town......
After taking the hysteria to a new level at the presidential debate last week, Trump spent much of Friday accusing illegal immigrants of having destroyed the Ohio city, despite the fact the immigrants are in the United States legally, and Springfield remains intact. The former president also lied about the number of Haitians in the community, citing statistics he claims to have heard.
Asked Friday about children having to be evacuated from a local school following a bomb threat, the Republican nominee shrugged it off, suggesting it wasnt a real problem. A day later, Trump was asked if hed be willing to denounce bomb threats. He dodged the question.....
But thats not all he said. The New York Times noted:
Its the first time, at least during this campaign, that one of the Republican Partys national candidates has admitted out loud, on the record, and on camera that hes willing to create stories in order to achieve political goals, even if that causes dangerous problems for his own constituents.
On Saturday, Trump told reporters that people in Springfield are going through hell. In a way, thats true. But to blame immigrants for the turmoil, instead of those lying about the immigrants, seems like a mistake.
Locals want Trump and Vance to help put out the fire the GOP candidates helped start. The would-be president and vice president are instead fanning the flames.
After taking the hysteria to a new level at the presidential debate last week, Trump spent much of Friday accusing illegal immigrants of having destroyed the Ohio city, despite the fact the immigrants are in the United States legally, and Springfield remains intact. The former president also lied about the number of Haitians in the community, citing statistics he claims to have heard.
Asked Friday about children having to be evacuated from a local school following a bomb threat, the Republican nominee shrugged it off, suggesting it wasnt a real problem. A day later, Trump was asked if hed be willing to denounce bomb threats. He dodged the question.....
But thats not all he said. The New York Times noted:
Senator JD Vance of Ohio, the Republican vice-presidential nominee, said Sunday that he stood by the debunked claims he and former President Donald J. Trump have spread suggesting Haitian migrants were eating pets, saying that he was willing to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention.
Its the first time, at least during this campaign, that one of the Republican Partys national candidates has admitted out loud, on the record, and on camera that hes willing to create stories in order to achieve political goals, even if that causes dangerous problems for his own constituents.
On Saturday, Trump told reporters that people in Springfield are going through hell. In a way, thats true. But to blame immigrants for the turmoil, instead of those lying about the immigrants, seems like a mistake.
Locals want Trump and Vance to help put out the fire the GOP candidates helped start. The would-be president and vice president are instead fanning the flames.
niyad
(118,030 posts)6. Backpfeifengesicht-- both of them, with a chain-mailed fist.
dalton99a
(83,307 posts)5. Trump & Vance must be held accountable for their terrorism.
Evolve Dammit
(17,992 posts)10. "...they are white." The MAGAT base is coming to the call.
quakerboy
(14,056 posts)12. Im just biding my time
I predict the next step is a bunch of MAGA's dissapearing or even mutilating their own pets to try and prove him right.
dmr
(28,549 posts)15. That's what I'm afraid will happen.
Just to prove TFG tells no lies.
This is such an awful sickness. And it's happening in America!
In America!