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Dennis Donovan

(22,192 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:09 PM Tuesday

Mother Jones: Is Trumpism a Supply or Demand Problem?

Is Trumpism a Supply or Demand Problem?

It takes more than one man to turn a political party into an extremist cult.

David Corn

4 hours ago



By now, you probably don’t need any more mastication about the debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. This was an event that required little after-the-fact explication. Harris deftly maneuvered Trump into displaying his worse qualities and unfitness for office. If you want to see how I weighed in, you can check this out. But it was troubling that two polls taken following the debate that captured the obvious—a majority believed Harris had won—showed that about a third of the viewers said Trump had triumphed. (CNN put the number at 37 percent for debate watchers; YouGov placed it at 31 percent for registered voters.) This gives us a good idea of how many Americans are either part of the Trump cult or susceptible to its pull. It’s not a majority or a plurality, but it’s a large slice.

Looking at these numbers, I thought of a recent New York Times column by David French, a Never Trumper conservative who has had to bear particularly cruel attacks from far-righters for his anti-Trump views. He reported that on a recent trip to Chicago he passed by the Trump tower there, and this triggered a thought:

I was reminded once again that Donald Trump is a singular figure in American politics. There is no one like him, and that means that no one can replace him. While it’s always perilous to make predictions about American politics—or anything else—here’s one that I’m almost certain is correct: If Trump loses in 2024, MAGA will fade. He is the irreplaceable key to its success.


French pointed out to his readers that after a recent column in which he said he was voting for Harris in order “to save conservatism from MAGA,” the MAGA response “was, in essence: You’re fooling yourself. Trump or no Trump, we own the party now.” No, he retorted in this offering: “If Trump loses, MAGA will fade. It will not go away, of course. Reactionary populism is a permanent fixture of American politics, but don’t believe MAGA’s hype. Its national success depends on one man.”

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Mother Jones: Is Trumpism a Supply or Demand Problem? (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Tuesday OP
Is there another moondust Tuesday #1
Maybe he can be interested in investing in time travel research in order to get his mother to make a trip rzemanfl Tuesday #4
Good plan! moondust Tuesday #5
Trump is a symptom. He's not the disease. TwilightZone Tuesday #2
this. +100 WarGamer Tuesday #8
Both. Magoo48 Tuesday #3
And the sooner he's gone... 2naSalit Tuesday #6
IMHO, French is wrong. WarGamer Tuesday #7

moondust

(20,303 posts)
1. Is there another
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:24 PM
Tuesday

"famous racist" out there to assume the MAGA throne? I'm sure fellow attention hound Eloon would be more than happy to take over but...he wasn't born in the U.S.

rzemanfl

(30,163 posts)
4. Maybe he can be interested in investing in time travel research in order to get his mother to make a trip
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:42 PM
Tuesday

to the U.S. to give birth.

TwilightZone

(26,963 posts)
2. Trump is a symptom. He's not the disease.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 02:28 PM
Tuesday

The disease already existed (and continues to exist) in the GOP and its adherents. He just found a way to exploit it more fully than others and make it, quite inexplicably, more socially palatable.

Should Trump lose in November, I believe the GOP will do whatever they can to blunt his power and accelerate his trip to relative irrelevance. Their ability to do so remains yet to be proven.

WarGamer

(14,271 posts)
7. IMHO, French is wrong.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 03:55 PM
Tuesday

He takes a far too shallow analysis of the current situation.

For one, Trumpism in an extension of the Tea Party. It's the same people.

Here's the problem for the GOP.

The Democratic Party has become the uni-party.

From Free Palestine protestors, Civil Rights activists and abortion activists to moderates and hard right neocons like the Cheneys, Kristol and the Bushies...

All anti-Trump.

What will happen post-Trump?

Can the Democratic Party hold the gang together?

But back to French's claim that MAGA will fade after Trump...

I don't think the newly politically active will go back under a rock.

Trump is an unbelievably bad spokesperson for the movement.

They will seek out someone YOUNGER, SMARTER, BETTER SPOKEN, MORE TALENTED and FEMALE to replace him.

Trust me, 2028 will be the same party platform as today but with a different face.

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