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Is "I haven't decided who I will vote for"? (Original Post) edhopper Tuesday OP
I think you nailed it, ed. Diamond_Dog Tuesday #1
If someone said that to me Figarosmom Tuesday #2
Absolutely. bif Tuesday #3
Maybe it means they shouldn't be voting SomedayKindaLove Tuesday #4
i think "Pay attention to me!!!" applies. ret5hd Tuesday #5
Agreed. Too childish to understand or care that the gangster is deplorable. lindysalsagal Tuesday #23
Not necessarily TheProle Tuesday #6
Yep. Some thought in my post below. pat_k Tuesday #10
Yup. dameatball Tuesday #7
For some I think it's: pat_k Tuesday #8
Or... littlemissmartypants Tuesday #20
Please don't quit! We need you! lindysalsagal Tuesday #24
Do you have any confidence that the person to whom you spooky3 Tuesday #31
This year we do have new officers. They might do something. littlemissmartypants Tuesday #36
Certainly there are those who are "undecided". . . pat_k Tuesday #32
Or they are SECRETLY for Harris, but are SCARED of somebody there. raging moderate Tuesday #33
I used to say that to people... 2naSalit Tuesday #9
It was in 2020 Rstrstx Tuesday #11
It's scary who in our lives is voting for the rapist. Joinfortmill Tuesday #12
Maybe the thought process is something like this? world wide wally Tuesday #13
I have known DENVERPOPS Tuesday #14
You describe homegirl Tuesday #22
That's exactly the kind of women gqp men want. lindysalsagal Tuesday #25
Yes. onecaliberal Tuesday #15
If you don't know by now you are a special kind of stupid! kimbutgar Tuesday #16
I've met many "undecided" "independents" over the years Orrex Tuesday #17
I believe you are correct. lindysalsagal Tuesday #26
We have a culture in the US markodochartaigh Tuesday #18
No, it means it's someone who never decides until s/he gets into the voting booth,. all alone Warpy Tuesday #19
good question. barbtries Tuesday #21
They are lying JustAnotherGen Tuesday #27
I'm reminded of the great David Sedaris comment about undecided voters in this election.... surfered Tuesday #28
My view PJMcK Tuesday #29
Wow did you get this right birdographer Tuesday #30
At least for some, it's a way to avoid taking crap for whatever... 3catwoman3 Tuesday #34
Exactly! LoisB Tuesday #35

pat_k

(10,318 posts)
8. For some I think it's:
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:16 PM
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I live in a place surrounded by Trump voters. They all talk about how great he is. He must be ok for so many people I know to be for him, but I'm not really seeing it. But I'm just too damn busy with work and the kids to watch those FOX News shows everybody talks about. I'm hearing so many different things about Kamala I don't know where I would even start to find out who's right, even if I had the time. I don't know where I can find information I can trust.

Perhaps the person is kinda hopin' information comes their way without effort. And who knows? Maybe it will. Perhaps a personable pair of Harris canvassers braving a red district listening to their concerns, answering questions, and above all, not looking at them like they're an idiot for being ambivalent.

However, if no information comes their way that gives them a reason to vote for Harris, they probably don't bother voting or they go with the social consensus where they live and vote for Trump.

littlemissmartypants

(23,725 posts)
20. Or...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:07 PM
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What I've seen as an election judge for years...

They don't bother to think or plan for any of the votes they will cast for any of their candidates because they share the same dog-eared mailer that they get from their pastor in the mail telling them who to vote for every election.

Though I have remarked that such sharing of political literature is electioneering and forbidden at a certain point in the voting area. I was told not to rock the boat by our chief judge.

And it infuriates me.

Any ideas? Except telling me to quit?

SMDH!

spooky3

(35,582 posts)
31. Do you have any confidence that the person to whom you
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:30 PM
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Would report the problem would actually do something about it?

If so, I think you should report it.

Thank you for toughing it out all this time.

littlemissmartypants

(23,725 posts)
36. This year we do have new officers. They might do something.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:26 PM
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I'd have to report it anonymously, maybe. IDK. I don't want to be seen as a trouble maker.

I live in a small town and have a high profile. I want to maintain my bank of social capital that I've built up over the years. That's what helps me get things done.

I'm sure many know because it's been happening for years. That no one has ever done anything about it speaks volumes.

To me it's like the perpetuation of illiteracy. No one advances and more and more fall behind. It really needs to stop. But I feel helpless.

pat_k

(10,318 posts)
32. Certainly there are those who are "undecided". . .
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:38 PM
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. . .until given instruction by some authority they have given their power away to.

Or some "voter guide" impersonating that power, like this one.

raging moderate

(4,469 posts)
33. Or they are SECRETLY for Harris, but are SCARED of somebody there.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:47 PM
Tuesday

You never know what is going on privately in a marriage, or a job, or a friendship, or a family relationship.

2naSalit

(90,847 posts)
9. I used to say that to people...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:36 PM
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Because it's none of their business, it's a secret vote. I was taught that it wasn't anyone else's business who I vote for.

Maybe they're saying, "Mind your own business."

Rstrstx

(1,507 posts)
11. It was in 2020
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 06:42 PM
Tuesday

If you look at the polls in 2020 Biden’s numbers were very close to what he actually received while Trump’s final numbers were several points higher than what the polls predicted. Those “undecideds” broke heavily for Trump. I don’t think they were undecided at all.

Joinfortmill

(15,778 posts)
12. It's scary who in our lives is voting for the rapist.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:31 PM
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I'm an old lady, and I finally accept we really don't know, with a very few exceptions, who the people around us really are.

world wide wally

(21,783 posts)
13. Maybe the thought process is something like this?
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:42 PM
Tuesday

Hmmmmm.... If I vote for Harris, Trump will have me killed...
Can he do that?

DENVERPOPS

(9,606 posts)
14. I have known
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:44 PM
Tuesday

countless wives of Republicans, who truthfully don't know, until their Republican husband tells them exactly who to vote for......

A large number of those wives would say the exact same thing, almost like it is a Republican Male Talking Point, and that is:

"I take care of the house and kids, he takes care of the political stuff and the money... AND then, a number would say:
"I am not smart enough for the political stuff or doing the money stuff"...............

Orrex

(63,746 posts)
17. I've met many "undecided" "independents" over the years
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:54 PM
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All of them staunch conservatives with heavy overtones of racism & bigotry.

I'd be amazed if any of these "undecided" "independents" ever voted Blue, and it's astonishing that CNN keeps finding "undecided" "independents" to fill their focus groups and then, as a chorus, recite things like "I just don't think Harris has a plan, so I'm leaning toward Trump."

markodochartaigh

(1,699 posts)
18. We have a culture in the US
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 07:55 PM
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of not talking about issues. Just "don't whine about it, don't talk about it, just do it". There are some people who can tell you the favorite breakfast cereal of every member of their sportsball team, their shoe size, and their stats, but don't know, or want to know that payroll taxes fund Social Security, that Trump and Putin had meetings where nothing was recorded, that, even after adjusting the baseline from 1780 to 1850-1900, the climate is still at least 1.2°C warmer, or that undocumented immigrants have a lower crime rate than native born citizens.

Ignorance is one of the Achilles' heels of democracy, and there is a segment of the population which is genuinely, and proudly, ignorant.

Warpy

(112,779 posts)
19. No, it means it's someone who never decides until s/he gets into the voting booth,. all alone
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:06 PM
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Some people are just like that. I know a few of them. I've learned not to engage them on the subject. Engagement is useless.

barbtries

(29,421 posts)
21. good question.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:08 PM
Tuesday

or I know I'm voting for Kamala but afraid you'll pull out a gun and murder me if I say so out loud?

surfered

(1,945 posts)
28. I'm reminded of the great David Sedaris comment about undecided voters in this election....
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:20 PM
Tuesday

“To put [undecided voters] in perspective, I think of being on an airplane.

The flight attendant comes down the aisle with her food cart and, eventually, parks it beside my seat. ‘Can I interest you in the chicken?’ she asks. ‘Or would you prefer the platter of sh*t with bits of broken glass in it?’

To be undecided in this election is to pause for a moment and then ask how the chicken is cooked.”—

PJMcK

(22,540 posts)
29. My view
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:24 PM
Tuesday

They are idiots.

If they don't recognize the stark binary choice then they are stupid.

Alternatively, if they're hiding their vote for Trump, they're stupid.

Either way, they're idiots. Just like Trump.

birdographer

(2,184 posts)
30. Wow did you get this right
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 08:29 PM
Tuesday

Anyone on the fence about trump is for trump. It's like "Do you want to die in poverty or lift yourself up and live a good life?"

"Gee, I don't know."

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