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orleans

(34,553 posts)
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 09:59 PM Tuesday

"When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the


When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the Lambs.






Trump: I don't think I've ever said this before. So we do these rallies. They're massive rallies. Everybody loves, everybody stays till the end. By the way, you know, when she said that, well, your rallies people leave. Honestly, nobody does. And if I saw them leaving, I'd say, and ladies and gentlemen make America great again and I'd get the hell out, ok? Because I don't want people leaving. But I do have to say so I give these long sometimes very complex sentences and paragraphs but they all come together. I do it a lot. I do it with raising cane. That story. I do it with the story on the catapults on the aircraft carriers. I do it with a lot of different stories. When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the Lambs. I use it. They say it's terrible. So they say so I'll give this long complex area for instance that I talked about a lot of different territory… You know, for a town hall, there's a lot of people but the fake news likes to say, the fake news likes to say, oh, he was rambling. No, no, that's not rambling. That's genius. When you can connect the dots. Now, now, Sarah, if you couldn't connect the dots, you got a problem. But every dot was connected and many stories were told in that little paragraph





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"When I mentioned Doctor Hannibal Lecter. I'm using that as an example of people that are coming in from Silence of the (Original Post) orleans Tuesday OP
Ahh, there's that genius weave move newdeal2 Tuesday #1
Everywhere there are elementary children wnylib Tuesday #8
Oh, I hope nobody is letting children see this guy's crap. Think. Again. Tuesday #19
Kids sometimes see or hear things on the news wnylib Yesterday #44
Shakespeare on Trump's styles delisen Yesterday #46
Don't forget the "sound and fury" part of the quote since wnylib Yesterday #47
A "stable genius"........LOL!! AZ8theist Yesterday #32
O.M.G. What is he trying to say?? Pure argle-bargle. And what is meant by allegorical oracle 21 hrs ago #49
This guy is completely nuts nikatnyte Tuesday #2
For me... 2naSalit Tuesday #5
But what's with the references to "raising cane" and "catapults on aircraft carriers"? wnylib Tuesday #14
The catapult reference has to do with sharks and batteries. Mosby Tuesday #20
. wnylib Yesterday #43
Those are... 2naSalit Tuesday #25
Isn't "Raising Cane" a fast food chicken only restaurant? woodsprite Yesterday #41
Raising Cain is a general tetedur 20 hrs ago #52
Thanks. His word salad still makes no sense, but wnylib 19 hrs ago #61
Well, that clears everything right up. DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #3
So not only does this proves he's a demented a-hole Docreed2003 Tuesday #4
That little... 2naSalit Tuesday #6
Yup. All those foreigners are sneaking out of insane asylums wnylib Tuesday #15
His brain is scrambled. Bristlecone Tuesday #7
Im afraid i dont speak Trumpanese The Third Doctor Tuesday #9
People coming in from "Silence of the Lambs"? Like actors coming in from Hollywood? LMAO Solly Mack Tuesday #10
So much policy that voters are looking for. Unlike VP Harris and her... brush Yesterday #42
Concepts of policy. Genius concepts of policy. With dots to connect. Like a cartoon puzzle. LMAO Solly Mack 19 hrs ago #63
Like Jodie Foster, Jonathan Demme, Scott Glenn, Ted Levine? hatrack 20 hrs ago #55
Reagan thought movies were real, too. Solly Mack 19 hrs ago #62
That boy's cheese done slid off his cracker! rsdsharp Tuesday #11
Biden was hammered relentlessly for a bad debate MustLoveBeagles Tuesday #12
Is sarah huckabee the governor of Michigan? spanone Tuesday #13
That does seem like a lack of courtesy. yardwork 20 hrs ago #58
Yes, Don-OLD, NOW we get it! "Hannibal Lechter" was just another slander on immigrants.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #16
The thing is Wiz Imp Tuesday #21
I only now understand the context of why he brought up that name.... Jack Valentino Tuesday #23
He's giving gibberish a bad name..... lastlib Tuesday #28
I wonder what happens if someone tells Trump that Silence of the Lambs is... Tarc Tuesday #17
I think what TFG referred to was the scene in which Clarice realized that in order to get Lecter's help, she'd have to, Backseat Driver Yesterday #39
Wow. You are an admirable translator of Trump-eze. n/t allegorical oracle 21 hrs ago #50
He's simply trolling... Think. Again. Tuesday #18
Makes even less sense now Blue Owl Tuesday #22
A legend IbogaProject Tuesday #24
If you ever want to punish a child in school,,,, lastlib Tuesday #26
He is one BIG run-on sentence with track shoes on. calimary Tuesday #27
A runoff sentence can actually make sense. Trump doesn't even come close. Martin68 Yesterday #31
One day in the near future of trump rallies dweller Yesterday #29
So when Harris said people leave Trump's rallies early it struck a nerve. Ha! Martin68 Yesterday #30
His language is best described as full of form but void of content, imo. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #33
IOW, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing tanyev 21 hrs ago #48
OMG, remember the "Sarah Palin Speech Generators" from 2008? Wednesdays Yesterday #34
wednesdays, i don't remember these but i LOVE this one you linked to! orleans Yesterday #37
If you hit "refresh" below the quote soandso Yesterday #40
Good Lord, I Mean....WTF, They Gonna Sanewash Thia??? Beetwasher. Yesterday #35
They just won't show it at all. Problem solved. Wednesdays Yesterday #38
Then he repeats words, the best words, words you never hear at any rally. Crowman2009 Yesterday #36
If he stood alone on a busy street corner in a major city spouting this crap... 0rganism Yesterday #45
And 48% of American voters think this disaster should be President of the United States. Diamond_Dog 20 hrs ago #51
He's not even convinced himself. marble falls 20 hrs ago #53
The really scary thing is some people understand him. Srkdqltr 20 hrs ago #54
Some people talk with and understand space aliens, too. nt allegorical oracle 20 hrs ago #56
This isn't as crazy as it sounds. Let me translate: yardwork 20 hrs ago #57
+1. The cult knows how to fill in the blanks dalton99a 19 hrs ago #59
We have to fight back against the evil message. yardwork 19 hrs ago #60

wnylib

(23,650 posts)
8. Everywhere there are elementary children
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:22 PM
Tuesday

in language arts classes who are either laughing or scratching their heads and saying, "Huh?"

wnylib

(23,650 posts)
44. Kids sometimes see or hear things on the news
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:34 AM
Yesterday

that their parents would ptefer that they didn't.

But I was responding to a post about English professors laughing at Trump's word salad. The point of my post was that even children would recognize that it was nonsense and laugh at it.

wnylib

(23,650 posts)
47. Don't forget the "sound and fury" part of the quote since
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 04:12 AM
Yesterday

it applies so well, too, to the orange one.

" 'Tis a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

allegorical oracle

(2,818 posts)
49. O.M.G. What is he trying to say?? Pure argle-bargle. And what is meant by
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 08:17 AM
21 hrs ago

"coming in from Silence of the Lambs"?

nikatnyte

(304 posts)
2. This guy is completely nuts
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:06 PM
Tuesday

If you don't think so, please interpret that insane jumble of words and tell me what kind of sense it makes. People are coming in from The Silence of the Lambs? What on earth does that mean? What "dots" are there to connect? Holy Crap is right.

2naSalit

(90,847 posts)
5. For me...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:14 PM
Tuesday

It proves that he really is confusing insane asylums with political asylum, he thinks the immigrants want to be put back in insane asylums but we are sending them out into the rest of the country. He really thinks this.

wnylib

(23,650 posts)
14. But what's with the references to "raising cane" and "catapults on aircraft carriers"?
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:32 PM
Tuesday

Does he mean the movie, Raising Cain? Spelled Cain, not Cane.

Catapults on aircraft carriers - Is that from another movie? Or is it from his ridiculous July 4th speech about the Continental Army protecting the airports?

I think that he knows that he's losing whatever mental marbles he has and is trying to explain it away as a sign of genius. But his explanations only confirm for us that his cognitive decline is accelerating.

Mosby

(17,002 posts)
20. The catapult reference has to do with sharks and batteries.
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:49 PM
Tuesday

Seriously though, he learned somewhere that the new catapults on air craft carriers are electromagnetic, not steam powered and he thinks if it's raining they won't work.

2naSalit

(90,847 posts)
25. Those are...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 11:50 PM
Tuesday

Added on components, he's been on the asylum thing since the escalator ride.

You could be right that he might know he's losing it and trying to cover. It's good to recall how the media covered for saint ronnie when his Alzheimer's was really kicking in. This is the same only worse.

woodsprite

(12,086 posts)
41. Isn't "Raising Cane" a fast food chicken only restaurant?
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:12 AM
Yesterday

We have one around here. It only sells chicken fingers in quantities of 2 to 100. Their boxed meal is fingers, coleslaw, Texas toast, and French fries served with Cane’s sauce (basically a mix of ketchup, mayo, and ground pepper).

tetedur

(950 posts)
52. Raising Cain is a general
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 08:39 AM
20 hrs ago

“Dan ‘Razin’ Caine”

Caine allegedly told Trump that ISIS was “not tough,” but “they just don’t let us do our job.” The general then went on to promise the then-president that ISIS could be defeated in a matter of four weeks, per Trump’s retelling Saturday, which was nearly identical to how he told the story back in 2019. Trump’s advisers allegedly told him at the time it would take four years.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2882237/man-behind-trump-plan-eradicate-isis-4-weeks/


wnylib

(23,650 posts)
61. Thanks. His word salad still makes no sense, but
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 09:44 AM
19 hrs ago

at least now I have some frame of reference for "raising cane."

Docreed2003

(17,475 posts)
4. So not only does this proves he's a demented a-hole
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:13 PM
Tuesday

It proves the point we've been making for a while that he thinks asylum equates to "insane asylum"

wnylib

(23,650 posts)
15. Yup. All those foreigners are sneaking out of insane asylums
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:35 PM
Tuesday

in their home countries and coming to the US because we have the best asylums.

Solly Mack

(91,712 posts)
10. People coming in from "Silence of the Lambs"? Like actors coming in from Hollywood? LMAO
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:25 PM
Tuesday

Yeah, ok. Genius? Sure. Whatever you rambling blowhard.

brush

(56,331 posts)
42. So much policy that voters are looking for. Unlike VP Harris and her...
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:18 AM
Yesterday

plan for 50k small business aid, 25k aid for home down payments, 6k aid for first child to parents...oh so much policy delineation, trump.

Your weaving word salad wins the night.

Solly Mack

(91,712 posts)
63. Concepts of policy. Genius concepts of policy. With dots to connect. Like a cartoon puzzle. LMAO
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 10:05 AM
19 hrs ago

yardwork

(63,362 posts)
58. That does seem like a lack of courtesy.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 09:21 AM
20 hrs ago

I can't think of too many instances where a governor led a political rally in another state. It seems rude.

Jack Valentino

(436 posts)
16. Yes, Don-OLD, NOW we get it! "Hannibal Lechter" was just another slander on immigrants....
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:35 PM
Tuesday

so poorly delivered that no one understood what point you were trying to make, without this explanation---
(and indeed most of us presumed that there was NO point at all,
just more of your incoherent blathering...)

So THANK YOU for explaining to the American people
that you are even WORSE than we thought,
if that is possible, which it apparently is.


By the way, Hannibal is still waiting for your RSVP on his dinner invitation!

What's for dinner? Dog, cat, or YOU ??

Wiz Imp

(421 posts)
21. The thing is
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:51 PM
Tuesday

if the purpose of bringing him up is to compare immigrants to him, then why does he always call him the late, great Hannibal Lecter. Immigrants are bad, but the horrible man you are comparing them to is great? Huh? He seems to talk admiringly of Hannibal Lecter so what is the point. None of it makes any sense. I know. I know. It's Trump. it only makes sense to the brain dead cult members who think everything Trump says is brilliant even it's total gibberish.

Jack Valentino

(436 posts)
23. I only now understand the context of why he brought up that name....
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 11:03 PM
Tuesday

I don't claim that his monologue makes any sense at all.

Tarc

(10,532 posts)
17. I wonder what happens if someone tells Trump that Silence of the Lambs is...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:39 PM
Tuesday

...at its core a tale of a woman finding and honing her inner strength to navigate multiple male-dominated spheres of influence and control. From Crawford's FBI to Chilton's hospital to Lecter's aura.

Phenomenal film, even better novel..

Backseat Driver

(4,555 posts)
39. I think what TFG referred to was the scene in which Clarice realized that in order to get Lecter's help, she'd have to,
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:35 AM
Yesterday

therefore, do a "quid pro quo" with Lecter, therefore revealing her dark secret PTSD from her monstrous bedtime childhood experience that she's long been challenged to overcome in her mind. The folks are coming into those rallies to hear the tough guy raise Cain (act in an aggressive, troublesome fashion--amazingly enough, a Biblical reference) but they are scared of their own monsters in the dark (Clarice's PTSD from her bedtime childhood experience when the lambs were all finally slaughtered and silenced from their screams). That's what he does and he's chuckling all the way to the bank because he thinks it's his genius by which he's lost those pesky inhibitions.

I don't recall his catapult on aircraft carriers reference; is he confusing it with the drag line & shute to slow down before going sliding overboard on descent?

Think. Again.

(15,606 posts)
18. He's simply trolling...
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 10:43 PM
Tuesday

It's like when we get trolls here on DU that highjack a discussion and start posting complex responses that go off in all sorts of different directions and bring in all sorts of barely related new topics, with the intent of distracting and diverting from the OP discussion topic.

He's trolling.

lastlib

(24,390 posts)
26. If you ever want to punish a child in school,,,,
Tue Sep 17, 2024, 11:56 PM
Tuesday

make him stay after school and DIAGRAM that sentence! He'll be there til he's old enough to graduate!

Martin68

(24,051 posts)
30. So when Harris said people leave Trump's rallies early it struck a nerve. Ha!
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:39 AM
Yesterday

The man is severely demented.

littlemissmartypants

(23,725 posts)
33. His language is best described as full of form but void of content, imo.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:49 AM
Yesterday

It is characteristic of this...



Logorrhea (psychology)

This article is about the psychological term. For the linguistic and stylistic term, see Verbosity.
In psychology, logorrhea or logorrhoea ( from Ancient Greek ?ό??? logos "word" and ῥέ? rheo "to flow" ) is a communication disorder that causes excessive wordiness and repetitiveness, which can cause incoherency. Logorrhea is sometimes classified as a mental illness, though it is more commonly classified as a symptom of mental illness or brain injury. This ailment is often reported as a symptom of Wernicke's aphasia, where damage to the language processing center of the brain creates difficulty in self-centered speech.

Characteristics

Logorrhea is characterized by "rapid, uncontrollable, and incoherent speech".[1] Occasionally, patients with logorrhea may produce speech with normal prosody and a slightly fast speech rate.[2] Other related symptoms include the use of neologisms (new words without clear derivation, e.g. hipidomateous for hippopotamus), words that bear no apparent meaning, and, in some extreme cases, the creation of new words and morphosyntactic constructions. From the "stream of unchecked nonsense often under pressure and the lack of self-correction" that the patient may exhibit, and their circumlocution (the ability to talk around missing words) we may conclude that they are unaware of the grammatical errors they are making.[3]

Examples of logorrhea

When a clinician said, "Tell me what you do with a comb", to a patient with mild Wernicke's aphasia, which produces the symptom of logorrhea, the patient responded:

What do I do with a comb ... what I do with a comb. Well a comb is a utensil or some such thing that can be used for arranging and rearranging the hair on the head both by men and by women. One could also make music with it by putting a piece of paper behind and blowing through it. Sometimes it could be used in art — in sculpture, for example, to make a series of lines in soft clay. It's usually made of plastic and usually black, although it comes in other colors. It is carried in the pocket or until it's needed, when it is taken out and used, then put back in the pocket. Is that what you had in mind?[4]


In this case, the patient maintained proper grammar and did not exhibit any signs of neologisms. However, the patient did use an overabundance of speech in responding to the clinician, as most people would simply respond, "I use a comb to comb my hair."
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More...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logorrhea_(psychology)

Wednesdays

(19,299 posts)
34. OMG, remember the "Sarah Palin Speech Generators" from 2008?
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 12:49 AM
Yesterday

We need to bring that back. They were all a hoot, and would fit TCF to a tee.



Most of them are long gone, but I found one that still works:
https://godammit.com/palin/

orleans

(34,553 posts)
37. wednesdays, i don't remember these but i LOVE this one you linked to!
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:04 AM
Yesterday

thank you!! i'm going through it and thinking i might post some of these on fb -- just for fun

she was quite the spellbinder, wasn't she?

soandso

(407 posts)
40. If you hit "refresh" below the quote
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 01:59 AM
Yesterday

there are more. I like this one:

I'm ill about the position that America is in, and should not be rewarded, but look at my hair

I could see Trump saying that.

Trump is totally ADHD. I have a friend, in his 70s, who I have known for 50 years and he talks the same way. He also cannot read a book from front to back because his brain can't pay attention long enough. As a result, whatever books he does read, he skips all over that place. I seem to recall seeing a photo from Trump's office where a drawer was open and a bottle of Adderall was in it.

Here's a neuroscientist and psychiatrist who even wrote a book about Trump's issue:

https://www.amazon.com/Recognizing-Adult-ADHD-Attention-Hyperactivity/dp/1949642224


0rganism

(24,382 posts)
45. If he stood alone on a busy street corner in a major city spouting this crap...
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 02:51 AM
Yesterday

... mothers with small children would shield their children's eyes as they crossed the street to avoid him, whispering, "Come along dear. Don't stare at the funny old man."
... tourists would pose around him briefly taking selfies, then hurry away.
... locals passing him on their way to work would ask the city council to do something about the annoying madman.
... even the bravest pigeons would keep their distance although occasionally targeting him with feces from above.

yardwork

(63,362 posts)
57. This isn't as crazy as it sounds. Let me translate:
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 09:18 AM
20 hrs ago

"Illegal immigrants are pouring into our country bringing crime and disease. The Democrats are doing this to you. I will protect you. The media tells lies about me, but I'm brave and I keep standing up and telling you the truth. A lot of people are listening. Let's take back our country."

This is what Trump's followers hear. This is what our seemingly reasonable relatives and neighbors think when they tell us "I don't like Trump but I like his policies."

This is what we're up against. It's age-old propaganda against the other.

Fight back. Tell people that you aren't afraid of immigrants.

yardwork

(63,362 posts)
60. We have to fight back against the evil message.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 09:40 AM
19 hrs ago

And it is evil. It is truly just what the Nazis did in the 30s. It's the attitude that allowed slavery to be legal in the U.S. for hundreds of years, and repressive Jim Crow laws for 100 more years. It's the attitude that allowed massive, continent-wide genocide of indigenous people here.

There's a simple way to fight back. Every time you hear someone say "I like his policies," say "I'm not afraid of immigrants. The immigrants I know came here for a better life, just like my ancestors. They work hard. I'm glad they're here."

Imagine if millions of Americans started saying "I'm glad they're here" every time immigrants were mentioned.

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