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Ozzi

(27 posts)
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:29 PM 20 hrs ago

Awhile ago I read Fox news is often left on in many Defense force communal areas. I forget the source. Is that true?


I heard about a new Sundance movie called War Game which has 2 groups of top ex military, political, legal (etc} strategists in 2 rooms, given 6 hours to re-enact & stop a new MAGA-style Jan6 insurrection from spreading. All done via pretense, performative orders, contrived responsive news media, public speeches, etc
Then I listened to a Meidas Touch lawyer's extreme dismayed response to the shocking content shown within newly leaked SCOTUS documents (including Snr Justice Roberts emails). These documents indicate the strong right-wing biased legal push by the so-called 6 conservative judges, directed by Roberts, for the newly decided, more expansive Presidential criminal immunity; which would then aid Trump as he likely rejects his Election loss & be more likely to take full advantage of such criminal immunity, especially as compared to Biden, to fight to maintain Presidential power & influence.
Then I reconsidered this Sundance Jan6 War Game Re-enactment Documentary.
If there's another MAGA-style insurrection next January, with MAGA indoctrinated military, citizens, judges, politicians, media, alongside powerful wealthy greedy puppet-masters, the best scenario was likely to avoid using military defense against US citizens. eg reduce riots, criminal acts (etc) with mainly State Police, not military forces, as first responders. Avoid escalating the situation. Maintain overt calm & control. Keep the majority public goodwill as much as possible. Help set a promisingly productive, calm Governing path for 2025 & beyond.
Problem with all that is that after the initial chaos is hopefully diverted & reduced, then SCOTUS bias alongside the left over, still free, entrenched, infiltrated, indoctrinated, greedy MAGA proponents, likely try to maintain the MAGA cause. Even with a leader in jail.
The MAGA ruled House, the MAGA participatory public/private forces, the Federalist SCOTUS6. Sabotaging acts.....they can all push through or aid a continuing, less overt but still very consequential insurrection effort. Who can counter-act SCOTUS? The House? The Mob? Foreign Interference? The angry cult? The fear of becoming a MAGA target, e.g. swatting, lone wolf attack. stalking etc. How does all THAT stop between November & January & maybe beyond.
Strong individualized, independent power groups mean consequential, independent outcomes that can be cross-purposed, counter-acted, tricked up on by each strong, powerful group. Chaotic mixed forces acting passionately, willfully, recklessly, antagonistically, cruelly for up to 3+ months. On one side (one room) is rule-abiding, cautious, public/democracy supportive fair acting players. The other side (room) uses any means available, foreign or national, legal or illegal, overt trickery or subtle sabotage.
Who wins?. What happens to the bitter losers? What does the all-powerful SCOTUS do then? Does Fox media bias stay influential? Does the Republican Party reset itself back to a new moderate political balance.
Can the Democrat party then focus on pushing for vital qualitatively Community-beneficial & transformative EDUCATION, Judicial, Environmental, Political, Scientific, Media, Corporate, Social Equity, Consumer, Financial new policies...and succeed? Can they get the changes through to help them improve their most urgent Political/Educative/Judicial systems & stabilize their US form of Democracy?
What do others think?
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Awhile ago I read Fox news is often left on in many Defense force communal areas. I forget the source. Is that true? (Original Post) Ozzi 20 hrs ago OP
Yep USAFRetired_Liberal 20 hrs ago #1
Yes and for decades before that, Rush Limbaugh as well. hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #2
Pro wrestling was popular when I was in. Kaleva 20 hrs ago #3
Can confirm. Luz 20 hrs ago #4
I don't know if there's ever been a scientific survey done Kaleva 20 hrs ago #5
I visited the Pentagon 20 years ago Diraven 20 hrs ago #6
What I see today in common areas is people looking at their phones Kaleva 20 hrs ago #7
Until Trump, we generally accepted the results of elections. Our guy lost. pwb 20 hrs ago #8
I mentioned Fox & Defence viewing as the % MAGA Defence rise-up could be a 1st or 2nd action after a MAGA loss Ozzi 20 hrs ago #9
Yes malaise 20 hrs ago #10
My son kwolf68 20 hrs ago #11
Thanks for reply. I wish I could add a vote. Ozzi 19 hrs ago #12
I'm sure it's true that's why I was so surprised in Afghanistan to see Al Jazeera on TV in the pizza place on base. captain queeg 19 hrs ago #13

Kaleva

(37,612 posts)
3. Pro wrestling was popular when I was in.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:41 PM
20 hrs ago

Fox News didn't launch until a number of years after I was discharged.

Kaleva

(37,612 posts)
5. I don't know if there's ever been a scientific survey done
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:45 PM
20 hrs ago

A number of people say it's true but they can only speak for what they witnessed and not for the entire DOD.

Diraven

(880 posts)
6. I visited the Pentagon 20 years ago
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:52 PM
20 hrs ago

Worked for a defense contractor. Fox News was on every TV I saw in the common areas and waiting rooms. Maybe they've changed since then.

Kaleva

(37,612 posts)
7. What I see today in common areas is people looking at their phones
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:55 PM
20 hrs ago

Few, if any, watching whatever is on tv.

pwb

(12,074 posts)
8. Until Trump, we generally accepted the results of elections. Our guy lost.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:58 PM
20 hrs ago

We all move on from there. The right deserves this wipeout they are about to receive. As usual the right oversteps. Cable news is really political news. If they were independent they might show us the earth on fire and flooding around the world etc. Promote the common good.

Ozzi

(27 posts)
9. I mentioned Fox & Defence viewing as the % MAGA Defence rise-up could be a 1st or 2nd action after a MAGA loss
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 06:58 PM
20 hrs ago

kwolf68

(7,633 posts)
11. My son
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 07:04 PM
20 hrs ago

Who just got out of the US Navy, having served as an air rescue swimmer, really didn't move that far on the right having been in the Navy. His views really didn't change much, though HE DID VOTE for Trump in the past. Though he never mentioned about Fox News being on or anything.

I am happy to report he asked us about how he could vote in Pennsylvania (he is a resident here but was stationed in California and is now doing training in Texas) so that he could vote for Kamala Harris. So chalk that one up!! My son has 'his issues" (he seems a bit intolerant toward gay people, which greatly bothers me) and I hope he comes around on those, but in the end I do think he'll eventually do the right thing.

Voting for Kamala is a step.

Ozzi

(27 posts)
12. Thanks for reply. I wish I could add a vote.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 07:32 PM
19 hrs ago

Thankfully we have a small penalty here in Australia if we don't vote. Its helped keep a more public/worker/democracy focused political party in power. Plus a lot more public schools hospitals roads social safety-net services in place. Plus its very easy to very easy to vote & guns are almost never seen. I've only seen a gun in America. My 3rd day there! I saw a few in the year I was there.
America is too big to fail. My kids & grand kids aren't as obsessed as me about your democracy, but a USA democracy loss will affect many countries & kids.

captain queeg

(11,585 posts)
13. I'm sure it's true that's why I was so surprised in Afghanistan to see Al Jazeera on TV in the pizza place on base.
Wed Sep 18, 2024, 07:34 PM
19 hrs ago
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