So I watched Kirsten Dunst in "Civil War" on Max

[Ilsa]

yesterday. It is more about photo-journalism than the war, specifically, how a young, aspiring photo-journalist tags along with a team seeking to interview the president.

The movie was very imprecise with the reason for the civil war. California and Texas were a faction. Florida was a faction, I believe, and there was a reference to south Florida. The most notable reason for the war is revealed when someone on the radio is talking about the president refusing to leave office after 2 full terms.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. SPOILER ALERT...SPOILER ALERT...SPOILER ALERT...SPOILER ALERT...SPOILER ALERT...SPOILER ALERT...

AT the end when the prez says his last words to the young reporter, we know then who he is representing.

Only cared about himself.

I missed that part about not wanting to leave after 2 full terms. Makes more sense now, with the ending, etc. I probably just didnt hear it, I have trouble sometimes with that.

[Ilsa]

2. Yeah, that brief "interview" and the brief mention of

South Florida did it for me.

Also at the beginning, the president has a different hairstyle from trump, but it is still a well-coiffed hairdo.

"Okay. That'll do."

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. Watched it today. An awful waste of time.

No real script. No idea what this Civil war was about. Lots of military gun shoot scenes, but no real point, Dialogue really sucked. Pretty fucking disappointing.

[TwilightZone]

4. It was intentionally ambiguous.

From what I read at the time, it was left intentional vague so that it wouldn't be considered political.

[EarlG]

5. I thought this was a really good movie

It’s not really about an American civil war. There are civil wars going on all over the world — we hear about them on the news, but we don’t really think about them too much. I think the purpose of the movie is to force American viewers to consider what a civil war must look and feel like for people elsewhere in the world, and the filmmakers achieved that to great effect by setting the movie in the USA. The contrast between the very familiar sight of American locales with the very unfamiliar sight of military forces occupying those locales was unsettling.

For me, the reason for the civil war was completely irrelevant — I didnt care about the backstory. The fact that one of the factions is California teaming up with Texas just felt to me like the filmmakers yelling “THIS IS A FANTASY.” The purpose was not to accurately recreate what an actual American civil war might look like, but rather to put the viewer on the ground in a civil war —any civil war — among all the chaos, and confusion. So what if the viewer doesn’t know all the details of what’s going on? Most of the citizens that the protagonists run into don’t really seem to know what’s happening either. For me, the lack of info was part of the disorienting effect of the movie, and it worked.

Yet despite not knowing what was really happening, I felt somehow satisfied by the ending. What happens at the end is very often the fate of evil dictators. And yet, I had to consider that I didn’t really know the full story. What if the president wasn’t really the bad guy? What if the Western Forces were a bunch of Nazis and the president had just failed to stop them? History really is written by the victors.

All in all it was a movie that stuck in my head for more than a few days, and not many movies do that.

[Dave Bowman]

6. I really enjoyed it as well for similar reasons.

I plan to watch it again eventually.

[obamanut2012]

7. I did, too, and Dunst was great

As always.

[Ilsa]

8. I completely agree. It was about perceptions, and

journalism, and how the young "take up the sword" (with a camera) when others have fallen. I was left with wondering if the novice had to deal with feelings of regret in capturing those last moments of someone she idolized.

I was also struck with the segment about the young woman tending a boutique when the rest of Main Street was deserted. Her attitude of "We'd rather not get involved," was very realistic. but she was pretty cavalier about her safety.

I thought it was worth watching.

[WarGamer]

9. much more likely than a "hot" Civil War is a dissolution of the Union.

Think it can't happen?

Texas and 20 other State AG's announce secession and the US AG sues in Court.

Barf, GoodHair, Sleepy, Scalito, Handmaiden and Roberts say OKEY DOKEY.

The nation is ordered to dissolve by SCOTUS with a fair and equitable division of assets and military gear.

Think it can't happen?

[TwilightZone]

10. Can't happen. Settled law, 1869.

Besides, the assertion that SCOTUS would dissolve the country is laughably ridiculous.

[WarGamer]

11. settled, like Roe?

That's meaningless.

They'll claim Texas v White is different.