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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm relatively new here and don't even know if I'm allowed to discuss this.
But I volunteered for jury service for this forum. Lately, there have been a lot of cases before me for inflammatory, personally insulting. and bigoted remarks.
I understand that we are all passionate in our beliefs, but we should promote and defend them in a factual and respectful manner.
Just like dealing with a Trump supporter, disparaging remarks are not going to advance your side of the argument.
Interact with your fellow DUer the way you would wish to be treated.
Peace

Ranting Randy
(153 posts)
Aussie105
(6,930 posts)with my comments, and got those comments deleted.
And I appreciate it!
The jury service asking for judgement by peers works well on this forum.
(Other forums, with 'moderators', not so much.)
ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)Cliques can gang up on someone who disagrees with one of them and flag them into BOJO status. It only took a few if you were new with no post mojo.
wnylib
(25,211 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(29,797 posts)Most definitely.
Deuxcents
(21,587 posts)Response to Deuxcents (Reply #4)
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AKwannabe
(6,694 posts)I walk the line too!
Torchlight
(4,451 posts)The occasional invective or pejorative is an easy pass.
When the peevishness goes beydod that though, and becomes the identity of the speaker however, propping itself up as part and parcel of the argument at the expense of any real argument is when I make the decision that I'm engaging with a bad-faith actor, and I begin to ignore them on a passive level, just kinda skipping past the name from then on.
Lunabell
(7,309 posts)They are notorious for making up fake accounts and even becoming star members just to troll.
marble falls
(64,325 posts)Clouds Passing
(4,239 posts)sab390
(209 posts)This should be taken down, and it was. As all have said the system works well. You can post and expect the verdict of the jury, as it should be.

I’ve cancelled out of a lot juries lately or simply refused.
The situation in the Middle East has created a lot of acrimony that I won’t involve myself with.
So, I’ve remained silent as the atrocities stack one on top of the other.
Lochloosa
(16,504 posts)Tree Lady
(12,324 posts)for the same reason the middle east. I see why both sides are upset and agree in part with both but I am a peaceful person and its too much.
We just got home from 3 wonderful weeks in a forested area in rural Canada. It was so refreshing not to see the political stuff for awhile nor hear about it. I had wifi at cabin and went on DU so I was up on everything but all around was totally peaceful.
surfered
(5,880 posts)It seems there is no middle ground on the issue of the Middle East. So, you may be shocked to learn that the majority of cases I’ve seen are not on that subject.
NNadir
(35,435 posts)The problem to my mind is everyone feels justified whereas, in war, no real justification exists for anyone at any time. War is the continuing scar of history, some of that to which appeals are made involves events that stretch over thousands of years, in other cases, over decades and then a few months, weeks or days. There is no "they started it," involving anyone not dead for a long time in my opinion. I call it "atrocity ratcheting."
I recall, in pain, that the Bosnian war seemed to involve some issue resulting from events Medieval times. This war originates in Biblical times. (I have no use for the Bible, Koran or Talmud, or any other claimed "sacred book" by the way; but I understand that others do.)
I am not known personally, for civility, but I can recognize a lack of it in myself and in others, but since I don't have any positive feelings for any of the participants in these arguments - everybody is wrong and no one is right in my view - I try to judge the point in these exchanges based on an interpretation of the DU rules. Someone has to do it. I'm not sure I do a good job at it; but I value the DU jury system, even as I've sometimes - many times actually - had juries come down on me.
TBF
(35,069 posts)then went to a jury system. I think it's kind of cool, it promotes more ownership of the place. There is still a MIR team (kind of like short-term mods that watch for obvious trolls, spam, etc.), and that helps keep the conversations cleaner as well.
I think it always gets worse as elections get closer, as emotions are high. Thanks for participating in juries!
marble falls
(64,325 posts)... who do reverse a hide, they have for me, twice.
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)Posted my statement and immediately changed it. It was alerted sometime while I was correcting myself.
marble falls
(64,325 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 1, 2024, 08:57 AM - Edit history (1)
... that was such a joke it went over the alerter's head and and at least four jurors' heads, too. I think it took about an hour or less to get unlocked. The second was a troll I was pushing at around the same time: he alerted me and someone alerted him at the same time. We both got hidden and that was when Skinner said "three comments and get out". I just had to push him through five or six exchanges forgetting I was interfering with the original post.
He fixed me, I don't insist on the last word anymore.
duhneece
(4,340 posts)You help make our family remain healthy and productive.
Thank you.
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Skittles
(163,071 posts)count yourself lucky
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Skittles
(163,071 posts)over and OUT
John Shaft
(808 posts)BRO
Hekate
(96,987 posts)Altho — you may be on your way shortly. I keep trying to reply, only to find your posts removed.
Xavier Breath
(5,455 posts)Hekate
(96,987 posts)Saying we’re all a bunch of semi-right wingers and outright rightwingers made me kind of I wrote a reply asking if perhaps he'd entered the wrong door, but by the time I tried to send my reply his post was gone. Perhaps he’s tired of our company and has decided being civil is a lost cause for him.
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marble falls
(64,325 posts)dobleremolque
(988 posts)cites the Rule that alleges to have been violated. Like for "personal insults." (FKA "flaming" back in the 14.4 baud days.)
Is the post up for adjudication one which attacks the content of the comment, or does it attack the commenter?
It's almost like really and truly jury service down at the court house, except the DU juror gets to interpret the law (DU Rule) rather than relying on jury instructions from the judge.
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marble falls
(64,325 posts)We get charged just like a courtroom jury is by the judge - the rule being used to alert is taken word for word from the ToS and posted right below the "evidence".
we are remarkably like a court room.
Tetrachloride
(8,635 posts)Klarkashton
(3,237 posts)DU person. He used to get away with this shit routinely. I blocked his arrogant ass.
Farmer-Rick
(11,708 posts)Who are pretty nasty and like to play games. They walk a fine line between breaking the rules and following them.
You have to block them or they will drive you nuts. Once they get you to respond, they follow you from post to post antagonizing you.
I think the blocking feature is great. Idiots can't break through that.
Klarkashton
(3,237 posts)DUer would make such stupid childish insults.
Now I chalk that one it up to senility. However even after being reported nothing happened.
Farmer-Rick
(11,708 posts)They must know a trick or something. Oh well, thank god for being able to ignore their stupidity.
JoseBalow
(7,117 posts)It just prevents you from seeing the comments an "ignored" stalker leaves in your wake. They can still see your posts, follow you around, and they can still comment at will. You just don't know it, so their comments stand without reply. It should work both-ways, like on other sites, but for some reason the Admin has decided not to do it that way.
Farmer-Rick
(11,708 posts)But if I can't see it I don't care.
But you're right they still influence others and get to create cliques and gather a following.
JoseBalow
(7,117 posts)TomSlick
(12,278 posts)DU jury duty is the cost we pay to have a usable site.
Thank you for your jury service.
LoisB
(9,897 posts)Skittles
(163,071 posts)seeing the attitude of so many DUers, I can see why people go off sometimes .....I've tempered myself a bit but the wish to bite back is always there
some forums I just ditch entirely - like I/P - all just too disgusting for me - so best to avoid completely
True Dough
(22,511 posts)You're a kicker... of asses!
Skittles
(163,071 posts)yeah, it's a daily thing where I just REALLY want to go off on SOMETHING
and I tell you, I know seeing Trump's face every freaking day for YEARS now has contributed heavily to it! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Think. Again.
(22,330 posts)...in my own personal opinion, it seems there are people here who are always looking to bait certain people into posting something that could be alerted on.
I try to keep that in mind when I get provocative responses that really aren't following a standard line of discussion on the given topic.
marble falls
(64,325 posts)... you should look into joining MIRT. the next new team will form up just after the election.
patphil
(7,602 posts)It's easy to go over the edge when emotions run high.
I usually preview each of my posts, and think about them before I hit the post button.
I can't say how many times I decided to just back out and not post something that I wrote with a bit too much passion, and a bit too little thought.
It's helped me a lot to do it that way.
Renew Deal
(83,710 posts)
You are correct! There is no need for insults most of the time.
flvegan
(64,868 posts)Haven't seen that in a while. Well timed. Even the Russian judge is giving this a 9.7
Thanks
Abolishinist
(2,357 posts)about one thing. You've been a Du'er for over 4 years, and yet you consider that being "relatively new" here?
surfered
(5,880 posts)Joinfortmill
(17,701 posts)Silent Type
(8,844 posts)certain topics, which I won’t name.
Insults, etc., are off limits. Honest/heated debate is OK with me.
wendyb-NC
(4,165 posts)Thanks for posting about the said topic, surfered. It is definitely worth bringing up.
Warpy
(113,132 posts)because I've noticed an uptick in uncivil behavior from some posters I've read and replied to for years. I thinkelection season jitters are affecting a lot of people more than they'd like to admit. We know what's at stake.
Be as kind as you can be unless someone is obviously going out of his or her way to be an asshole.